Ok, how retarded am I?

[YatesIsBased]

I must be dying or at least about to go on dialysis, right?

LOL. That's where I'm at.

I've had 58 numbers from my regular GP's blood work years ago and he never expressed any serious concern. The lab lists the "normal" range at simply >60.

I appreciate the info. You have taken, at least a little, stress off the situation.

 

[malfeasance]

Some day I will tell you about the time my doc convinced me my liver was shot . . . so I took four days off lifting weights, retested, and all my liver values were normal.

I panicked a bit for a little while there, though . . .

 

[bigMoJo]

Not sure how reliable eGFR is, anyway. Just being honest.

I agree with this 100%.

In fact @YatesIsBased when you have your results, input them into this calculator. This calculator corresponds with what @malfeasance is suggesting (I think). It's likely going to show you acceptable levels, but still a loss of some function... it won't be 100%. I'm estimating between 77 and 87, based on the measures you stated you will undertake between now and your lab.

But, realistically, for some people, especially big guys, that's not unusual with age. If 20 years ago, someone brought this to your attention, you may have been able to save some of the lost function. But, like the majority of people out there, especially those who are generally sedentary, everyone's losing some level of kidney function with age.

Also, this has been a good thread... the cumulative info from @malfeasance, @Bigoldguy, @Steve0691, and the others are a good start. We all know there are no free rides in this game. At least you saw a problem and are handlng it... instead of panicking... that's what we do.

Tear it up brother!

 

[Bigoldguy]

Not really. I am 6 feet tall. I was in the 250s, and now I am down in the 220s. I competed (weigh in) at 207, and I was shooting for, hopefully competing at a stage weight of more like 220 in the year when I realized things were not going in the proper direction. I mean, my weight was going in the proper direction, but so was my blood pressure, incrementally, a little bit with each pound gained, so one day I just quit. Done.

I miss being bigger, but not enough to be buried early for it. I still have little kids at home.

Sounds a little like me, though I never competed. At my biggest I was 6'4" and 280lbs...I looked good (at least folks told me that)! Started having headaches and saw the doc. 225/110 after several retakes. Was still young and stupid enough to not realize how bad it was though. He explained it pretty bluntly...stay big, stay looking good, die before Im 30. Shrink up, still look good and maybe see retirement. Went with option two. Now 61 with 1 son about to graduate college and the other about to get married. Was a decision I dont regret.

 

[bigMoJo]

Some day I will tell you about the time my doc convinced me my liver was shot . . . so I took four days off lifting weights, retested, and all my liver values were normal.

I panicked a bit for a little while there, though . . .

Are you still with that doctor?

I'll bet you'd love to show him the amazing things you could do to a liver

 

[malfeasance]

I agree with this 100%.

In fact @YatesIsBased when you have your results, input them into this calculator.

Don't you need a Serum Cystatin C number to insert in order to use that calculator?

 

[bigMoJo]

Don't you need a Serum Cystatin C number to insert in order to use that calculator?

Yes, you do.

OP stated that he was going to go for a Cys C upon suggestion from another member... I suggested adding the uACR... with intention of implementing this calc. I just didnt mention the calc before because I didnt want to put the cart before the horse (specifically for this reason).

 

[YatesIsBased]

Kidneys update: A big thank you to everyone that offered their advise/help.

uACR & Cystatin C tests on 4/9/25, 32 days after last AAS use.
eGFR Calculator = G2/A1

BTW – Total test/Free test went from 4209/1618 on AAS to 117/22 off for 32 days.

uACR:

Cystatin C:

 

[ackmack78]

Yes, you do.

OP stated that he was going to go for a Cys C upon suggestion from another member... I suggested adding the uACR... with intention of implementing this calc. I just didnt mention the calc before because I didnt want to put the cart before the horse (specifically for this reason).

I believe that calculator is supposed to be using serum creatinine not urine creatinine.

While similar there is a big difference when it comes to kidney disease. High serum creatinine and normal urine creatinine is an indicator of possible kidney disease.

 

[YatesIsBased]

I believe that calculator is supposed to be using serum creatinine not urine creatinine.

While similar there is a big difference when it comes to kidney disease. High serum creatinine and normal urine creatinine is an indicator of possible kidney disease.

I used the serum creatinine number (1.37) for the calc.

 

[bigMoJo]

I used the serum creatinine number (1.37) for the calc.

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Your uACR was below detection... which is excellent.

I boelieve that calculator is supposed to be using serum creatinine not urine creatinine.

While similar there is a big difference when it comes to kidney disease. High serum creatinine and normal urine creatinine is an indicator of possible kidney disease.

You use all of them brother.

Here is what calculated... good results. But let's make sure your height and weight are correct (they should still be close to these numbers).

 

[YatesIsBased]

Your uACR was below detection... which is excellent.

You use all of them brother.

Here is what calculated... good results. But let's make sure your height and weight are correct (they should still be close to these numbers).

73" and I dropped to 130lbs by the test date. It gave me a G2/A1 with those numbers. Still a serious relief.

I hear that people shrink as they age, so maybe if I lose an inch and gain some muscle, I'll be in the G1/A1 category.

Seriously, I appreciate the guidance. For the last four weeks I was popping the Astragalus root like they were M&Ms.

Going to pay more attention to hydration too.

 

[Ateam2023]

73" and I dropped to 130lbs by the test date. It gave me a G2/A1 with those numbers. Still a serious relief.

I hear that people shrink as they age, so maybe if I lose an inch and gain some muscle, I'll be in the G1/A1 category.

Seriously, I appreciate the guidance. For the last four weeks I was popping the Astragalus root like they were M&Ms.

Going to pay more attention to hydration too.

Don't you love the smell Astragulus gives your urine,, Pretty potent , kinda like after eating asparagus, lol

 

[YatesIsBased]

Don't you love the smell Astragulus gives your urine,, Pretty potent , kinda like after eating asparagus, lol

Is that what that's from? LOL!
I've been on it for weeks but just noticed it lately and was wondering wtf did I eat.

 

[bigMoJo]

73" and I dropped to 130lbs by the test date. It gave me a G2/A1 with those numbers. Still a serious relief.

Wait.... "130lbs?"
"130?"
On your first post you were above 200lbs. Please double-check.

 

[YatesIsBased]

Wait.... "130lbs?"
"130?"
On your first post you were above 200lbs. Please double-check.

Yup, I may have over done it on the cardio.

After 5 years on gear, I think I've made same pretty impressive gains. lol.

Sorry, I meant 230

 

[bigMoJo]

Yup, I may have over done it on the cardio.
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After 5 years on gear, I think I've made same pretty impressive gains. lol.

Sorry, I meant 230

Lol... okay bro. I shit myself when you wrote "130lbs" because that drops the calculation.

Also, I made a mistake with the uACR... mine is incorrect at "G1/A1," but yours is correct at G2/A1. Not a big deal... what's good is your uACR is very clean.

Good for you taking the suggestions and knocking out the testing. I'm happy and glad it's brought you relief.