Old guys..what's the craziest practice that was normal years ago but is insane now?

its not a debate over toughness that word is subjective, i am asking them why they need a drug to not over eat they just get defensive and attack me like its going to ruin my day lol
I understand now. It's not that you're an arrogant, judgemental jerk. It's that you're too stupid to understand what GLPs are, what they do, and how they do it. Search up HGH and GLP. Learn a little. And you can do that with your mind open and your mouth shut.
 
I understand now. It's not that you're an arrogant, judgemental jerk. It's that you're too stupid to understand what GLPs are, what they do, and how they do it. Search up HGH and GLP. Learn a little. And you can do that with your mind open and your mouth shut.
Brutha I don't need science to tell my eyes see. Grown men using 7 different drugs to walk around at 12 percent with a dad bod is about as pathetic as it gets. Guys who have the self control gene walk around twice as lean, 3x as healthy and use zero drugs.

Shifty genetics is about more than muscle insertions...people who lack basic discipline and drive have shit genetics too lol
 
Brutha I don't need science to tell my eyes see. Grown men using 7 different drugs to walk around at 12 percent with a dad bod is about as pathetic as it gets. Guys who have the self control gene walk around twice as lean, 3x as healthy and use zero drugs.

Shifty genetics is about more than muscle insertions...people who lack basic discipline and drive have shit genetics too lol
I hate my shit genetics
 
Reading back; im not sure how this turned into a glp thread but… I can remember the complete lack of any interest by experienced guys about harm reduction. After the steroid control act was passed, nobody would talk about gear use, nevermind admitting to using it. Most of my earliest experiences with peds was all trial and error. I can remember not understanding the need for a testosterone base, and running single compound cycles. Not understanding shutdown and pct. Information was hard to come by. I can remember asking the biggest guy at the ymca what i could do to add some extra mass; he laughed at me and said “ eat more peanut butter and jelly sandwiches “ that was the extent of harm reduction in the good ol days. Lol.
 
Reading back; im not sure how this turned into a glp thread but… I can remember the complete lack of any interest by experienced guys about harm reduction. After the steroid control act was passed, nobody would talk about gear use, nevermind admitting to using it. Most of my earliest experiences with peds was all trial and error. I can remember not understanding the need for a testosterone base, and running single compound cycles. Not understanding shutdown and pct. Information was hard to come by. I can remember asking the biggest guy at the ymca what i could do to add some extra mass; he laughed at me and said “ eat more peanut butter and jelly sandwiches “ that was the extent of harm reduction in the good ol days. Lol.
My First cycle was deca by itself. I put on 15 or 20 pounds. No pct. No ed. Ah, to be young again.
 
My First cycle was deca by itself. I put on 15 or 20 pounds. No pct. No ed. Ah, to be young again.
Lol. I ran injectable winstrol only, and my first introduction to tren was pellet made tren A only. About the only thing I did right was my first cycle : Bayer Testoviron depot , 500mg week for 12 weeks. The pip was so frigin bad, I said to hell with this testosterone, let’s try something else lmao.
 
My First cycle was deca by itself. I put on 15 or 20 pounds. No pct. No ed. Ah, to be young again.
Somehow that same cycle with no pct worked great for a bunch of golden era dudes including the likes of Danny Padilla and Robby Robinson. Meanwhile there's plenty of dudes running grams of the latest "science based" cycles who still look like shit and have tons of sides LOL
 
Reading back; im not sure how this turned into a glp thread but… I can remember the complete lack of any interest by experienced guys about harm reduction. After the steroid control act was passed, nobody would talk about gear use, nevermind admitting to using it. Most of my earliest experiences with peds was all trial and error. I can remember not understanding the need for a testosterone base, and running single compound cycles. Not understanding shutdown and pct. Information was hard to come by. I can remember asking the biggest guy at the ymca what i could do to add some extra mass; he laughed at me and said “ eat more peanut butter and jelly sandwiches “ that was the extent of harm reduction in the good ol days. Lol.
Imo the whole "harm reduction " thing is nothing more than guys using less, calling it trt, and obsessing over their estrogen levels while thry let their bf get high, and gives people an excuse to stack more drugs on top of drugs to combat "sides" lol.

True harm reduction is staying lean, moving, not relying on drugs, not eating crap.
 
Real Gangsta Shit Harm Reduction™ is injecting pale ale tren and not rhabdopiss tren, right @readalot ?
Well in full disclosure we could not find any smoking gun in the light vs darker tren for the experiments we did. So starting with a very high purity raw disproved the hypothesis there was a TRA degradation product imparting the color. It is was just HPLC there may have been some lingering doubt, but GCMS was clean as well.
 
Imo the whole "harm reduction " thing is nothing more than guys using less, calling it trt, and obsessing over their estrogen levels while thry let their bf get high, and gives people an excuse to stack more drugs on top of drugs to combat "sides" lol.

True harm reduction is staying lean, moving, not relying on drugs, not eating crap.

You're running steroids. growth hormone. thyroid meds (against medical advice), and raging over "unnecessary" use of (mostly harm reducing) drugs on a PED board FFS.

Are you hypogonadal, have adult growth hormone deficiency or hypothyroidism?

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You're running steroids. growth hormone. thyroid meds (against medical advice), and raging over "unnecessary" use of (mostly harm reducing) drugs on a PED board FFS.

Are you hypogonadal, have adult growth hormone deficiency or hypothyroidism?

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Seems to me like the more useful study for most Meso members would be whether AAS can improve mental stability if you start from a schizobatshit baseline.
:cool:
 
You're running steroids. growth hormone. thyroid meds (against medical advice), and raging over "unnecessary" use of (mostly harm reducing) drugs on a PED board FFS.

Are you hypogonadal, have adult growth hormone deficiency or hypothyroidism?

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My thyroid is against medical advise? Says the bozo who announces to the world he is stocking up on illegal drugs because hes afraid China will screw him.
 
My thyroid is against medical advise? Says the bozo who announces to the world he is stocking up on illegal drugs because hes afraid China will screw him.
Little Birdy Birdy… you made me come back from my break just to applaud you. Truly, you are the pinnacle of human discipline.

You don’t need GLP-1s to control food intake, you’re way above that. Instead, you just blast your body with steroids, growth hormone, and thyroid meds because, you know, that’s totally “natural willpower.”

It’s fascinating, really: a guy who injects 7 drugs to look like He-Man is lecturing people about “self-control” for using a substance that literally helps them not overeat. That’s like a crackhead making fun of someone for using nicotine patches.

But hey, I get it, we all need our heroes. And today, you, Birdy, are mine. A man so pure he can deadlift hypocrisy with perfect form.

Applause everyone!
 
Little Birdy Birdy… you made me come back from my break just to applaud you. Truly, you are the pinnacle of human discipline.

You don’t need GLP-1s to control food intake, you’re way above that. Instead, you just blast your body with steroids, growth hormone, and thyroid meds because, you know, that’s totally “natural willpower.”

It’s fascinating, really: a guy who injects 7 drugs to look like He-Man is lecturing people about “self-control” for using a substance that literally helps them not overeat. That’s like a crackhead making fun of someone for using nicotine patches.

But hey, I get it, we all need our heroes. And today, you, Birdy, are mine. A man so pure he can deadlift hypocrisy with perfect form.

Applause everyone!
Name the 7 drugs I inject...thanks.

And sorry that your a drug addict with an eating disorder. What's your bf...im assuming as a food addict and glp junkie...pretty fat
 
My thyroid is against medical advise? Says the bozo who announces to the world he is stocking up on illegal drugs because hes afraid China will screw him.

That AAS hypothalamus atrophy memory loss hitting you hard.

"Hey doc, I need thyroid meds"

"No you don't"

"Fuck you I'll take them anyway",

Bumping this up as my thyroid labs are horrible (low t4 bottom number in range , high tsh). This place will write you an actual script? Because the endo is not willing despite labs and all the symptoms simply because my test levels are high.

And yeah, stocking up in advance of what was obviously coming is the sign of a well functioning brain.
 
Name the 7 drugs I inject...thanks.

And sorry that your a drug addict with an eating disorder. What's your bf...im assuming as a food addict and glp junkie...pretty fat
Who said that I have an eating dissorder and run GLP medications? Some of us just recognize that medicine can help people, whether it’s TRT for low test, thyroid for hypothyroid, or GLP-1s for obesity. You don’t have to use something to understand it has value, unless, of course, your worldview is limited to whatever’s in your syringe.

The irony here is that you’re happy to justify your own stack with ‘medical reasons’ when it suits you, but the second someone else uses a tool to improve their health, suddenly it’s weakness. That’s not discipline talking, that’s insecurity.
 
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