Old IP yellow tops.

[kawilt]

Been taking about 125mg or so EW of some old BD testE from IP (got it over a year ago)
Also about .2ml ED of the IP yellow top (also over a year old)

Free Testosterone(Direct) 40.3 HIGH 6.6-18.1 pg/mL

Testosterone, Serum 1348 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL

Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 183 HIGH 41-179 ng/mL 02

Estradiol, Sensitive 83 HIGH 3-70 p

 

[hotdog23]

I had these recently as well. Idk the batch number. It's in the trash. What is .2ml Ed? 2iu?

Edit: if so I think that is good. Has you out of range for your age group

 

[kawilt]

I had these recently as well. Idk the batch number. It's in the trash. What is .2ml Ed? 2iu?

Edit: if so I think that is good. Has you out of range for your age group

There was a post a week or so ago about IP and other HGH being all bunk. I thought I'd see if what I had from last year was any good. The vial of the IP yellow tops do not have the IU content or the batch No., no label. so I just used .2 ml in the syringe every morning.

 

[Rick Kane]

There was an email years ago floating around between IP and one of his largest resellers of gh. I only wished I had copied it because it was erased a couple of hours after it was posted.
He went on about how a lot of his gh wasn't 191 but that people had been using it all along and getting good results. It sounded like he was pissed that people were complaining and questioning him after getting "excellent results" with his gh and now seemingly everyone has a bone to pick. The general tone of his email was that most BBers were too stupid and that 192 was just as good as 191.

To think I used to defend this guy. What an ASS!

I knew IP from the bolex days when we used to crash his 50mg winny tabs. Those blue tabs were the bomb!

 

[mands]

There was a post a week or so ago about IP and other HGH being all bunk. I thought I'd see if what I had from last year was any good. The vial of the IP yellow tops do not have the IU content or the batch No., no label. so I just used .2 ml in the syringe every morning.

They are 10 iu vials and if you put 1ml in them you are running 2 iu a day.

What were your pre gh use labs at?

mands

 

[kawilt]

They are 10 iu vials and if you put 1ml in them you are running 2 iu a day.

What were your pre gh use labs at?

mands

Here were the results last month. I thought it was 10ius but wasn't sure. That's why I was loading .2mls.

2014-12-04 05:13:00 -0800

IGF-1

Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 171 41-179 ng/mL 01

 

[mands]

Here were the results last month. I thought it was 10ius but wasn't sure. That's why I was loading .2mls.

2014-12-04 05:13:00 -0800

IGF-1

Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 171 41-179 ng/mL 01

Sorry my brother but a 12 ng/mL fluctuation could happen from one day to the next without taking any GH. I highly doubt your GH is real. I would be willing to bet money on it if you wanna send it off for testing. I would bet $100 on it. That's a few bottles of test.

mands

 

[kawilt]

Sorry my brother but a 12 ng/mL fluctuation could happen from one day to the next without taking any GH. I highly doubt your GH is real. I would be willing to bet money on it if you wanna send it off for testing. I would bet $100 on it. That's a few bottles of test.

mands

This was from some RIPs I had a couple of months ago.

COLLECTED: 2014/09/19 12:53
RECEIVED: 2014/09/19 15:20
REPORTED: 2014/09/19
CLIENT INFORMATION
2014-09-21 06:39:00 -0700
Private MD Labs
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
IGF-1
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 261 HIGH 41-179 ng/mL 01

 

[mands]

This was from some RIPs I had a couple of months ago.

COLLECTED: 2014/09/19 12:53
RECEIVED: 2014/09/19 15:20
REPORTED: 2014/09/19
CLIENT INFORMATION
2014-09-21 06:39:00 -0700
Private MD Labs
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
IGF-1
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I 261 HIGH 41-179 ng/mL 01

I don't get it. Am I missing something. You thought your yellow tops were real from a 12 ng/mL increase? I didn't ask about RIPS. I could be getting confused.

mands

 

[kawilt]

I don't get it. Am I missing something. You thought your yellow tops were real from a 12 ng/mL increase? I didn't ask about RIPS. I could be getting confused.

mands

Sorry Mands. It looks a little confusing.
I had some RIPs from Stretch last year, ran out a few months ago. The Igf-1 levels came in at 468. I'd have to search for the lab results but I sent a copy to Dr. Jim. Then I got some more RIPs from another source and the Igf-1 came back at 261. I let that wear off and I got the old IP yellow tops out of the fridge, and that is what came back at 183.
The Igf-171 level is after I stopped the new batch of RIPs.
I don't know what is real or not real or if they are bunk or underdosed.
I know age play's a big part in your HGH so I doubt my base is much above minimum. I think the range is for healthy males between 20 and 40?

 

[mands]

Sorry Mands. It looks a little confusing.
I had some RIPs from Stretch last year, ran out a few months ago. The Igf-1 levels came in at 468. I'd have to search for the lab results but I sent a copy to Dr. Jim. Then I got some more RIPs from another source and the Igf-1 came back at 261. I let that wear off and I got the old IP yellow tops out of the fridge, and that is what came back at 183.
The Igf-171 level is after I stopped the new batch of RIPs.
I don't know what is real or not real or if they are bunk or underdosed.
I know age play's a big part in your HGH so I doubt my base is much above minimum. I think the range is for healthy males between 20 and 40?

Shit 468 is up there for sure. Well looks like first RIPS were great, then second RIPS not so much and IP yellow tops complete bunk is my thoughts.

Thanks for clarifying sir.

mands

 

[kawilt]

Shit 468 is up there for sure. Well looks like first RIPS were great, then second RIPS not so much and IP yellow tops complete bunk is my thoughts.

Thanks for clarifying sir.

mands

Thanks mands for your input. A question though. I was only taking 2IUs of the yellow tops, if I were to kick that up to 4 wouldn't it increase the Igf-1 levels? The same question regarding the newer RIPs. I see where a lot of people are taking 6 or more.
Thanks

 

[mands]

Thanks mands for your input. A question though. I was only taking 2IUs of the yellow tops, if I were to kick that up to 4 wouldn't it increase the Igf-1 levels? The same question regarding the newer RIPs. I see where a lot of people are taking 6 or more.
Thanks

In theory yes it would. I would trust the RIPS more than I would the yellow tops though.

Hell I know a lot of guys who run 10-20 ius of generics. I'll stick to my pharm grade. I have tried generics and I think some were good.

mands

 

[kawilt]

In theory yes it would. I would trust the RIPS more than I would the yellow tops though.

Hell I know a lot of guys who run 10-20 ius of generics. I'll stick to my pharm grade. I have tried generics and I think some were good.

mands

Thanks mands....So were back to the original problem I believe. I tend to lean towards the theory that most of the generics are cut pharm grade, not some secret peptide mix the Chinese have come up with. If that's the case, then just what they use to cut it would be the question. IMO.
Thanks again

 

[ironwill1951]

if one had to do 10-20 iu generic a day, it would be cheaper to use pharm grade at 3-4 iu per day

In theory yes it would. I would trust the RIPS more than I would the yellow tops though.

Hell I know a lot of guys who run 10-20 ius of generics. I'll stick to my pharm grade. I have tried generics and I think some were good.

mands

 

[mands]

Thanks mands....So were back to the original problem I believe. I tend to lean towards the theory that most of the generics are cut pharm grade, not some secret peptide mix the Chinese have come up with. If that's the case, then just what they use to cut it would be the question. IMO.
Thanks again

I don't think your theory is sound brother. There are facilities in China that produce GH. Really don't think they are cutting it.

mands

 

[mands]

if one had to do 10-20 iu generic a day, it would be cheaper to use pharm grade at 3-4 iu per day

Depending on what generics you are correct.

mands

 

[kawilt]

Has anybody that's doing 6 to 10 IUs a day of generics posted blood work?

 

[mands]

Has anybody that's doing 6 to 10 IUs a day of generics posted blood work?

I would say someone somewhere has. I don't think I have seen anyone on MESO do so.

mands

 

[kawilt]

I would say someone somewhere has. I don't think I have seen anyone on MESO do so.

mands

Just to see, I am trying 2.5 of the yellow along with 2.5 of the Rips . Have blood work in a couple of weeks.
Thanks