omnadren or sust or enanthate

[Buff Diddy]

i'm planning out my next cycle and have the choice to go with sust 250, omnadren or test enanthate. all are about the same price what would you pick? i'll probably go 250-500mg for 8-10 weeks. stacked with 300mg deca. i'm hoping using the deca at this dose won't be two difficult because i'm going to have to use 1 1/2 vials per injection. i could throw in some d-bol too if i wanted, maybe 20mg a day, but i probably won't cause i'm concerned about liver damage. i probably wouldn't think twice but truth is i like to party once in a while and don't want to mix the d-bol with any alcohol or pills. what do you guys think about this.

 

[doggmann]

go w/enanthate at that dose...you'll get little benefit from the fast acting esters in omna or sust at only one amp per week. also, try to stay away from the recreational drugs while on; your cycle will go better w/o booze or pills....

 

[mr_meanor]

i prefer sust and will get flamed for it but who cares it has given me great results mixed with deca, but whatever you choose take atleast 2 shots a week and it ok to mix deca and test in the same pin

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

for novice users I suggest enanthate because enth is a longer acting ester and easier to deal with. You can take one injection weekly and keep constant test levels through thus no spiked levels like sustanon. The point to a cycle is to keep constant levels for better gain, less side affects. Omna, and sust in my opinion is more of an advanced drug despite its common use and favorability among novice users. It just looks good with all that gear in there but little do they know it needs to be done frequently for proper use. It's a common misconception.

My analogy is this. If you are on a boat in high seas. If the boat keeps going up and down with the waves, don't you eventually get sea sick? I compare this to the constant spikes in sustanon or omna usage.

Enanthate in my opinion is the ideal novice gear. Dont get me wrong. There is enanthate in sustanon so you will still grow off them but not as good as you think or could if done properly. This is my opinion only.

The way to get the best out of sust or oman is to do them at the least every 3 days for the cyp in it. I forgot whats in omna's its different than sust but same activity. Sust and omna's actually should be done ED. Read my sustanon usage link to learn more.

 

[Buff Diddy]

i prefer sust and will get flamed for it but who cares it has given me great results mixed with deca, but whatever you choose take atleast 2 shots a week and it ok to mix deca and test in the same pin

yeah i agree i got my best gains from a cycle of sust 250 and deca 200mg (human grade) for 7 weeks. i gained 15 solid pounds almost 20 at times. it took me from my plateau of 175 up to bouncing between 190-195. i took about 8 weeks off. then i did a mild cycle of just omnadren 250mg weeks 1-4 500mg weeks 5-6, 250 weeks 7-8. i wanted to see what 500mg of test would be like. it was cool. i'm thinking i could probably handle 500mg for 8 weeks straight. my only concern is how much i'll break out on my shoulders and traps. as you can see i'm pretty much still a novice with juice. i've probably done about 4-5 mild cycles. taking at least as much time on as off. didn't get any fantastic results until i did that human gear. now thats all i'll do. i'm looking to to a bigger cycle than i've done yet. i want to get another 15-20 pounds for summer. my guess is that 500mg of test for 8 weeks while taking deca (300mg) for 12 weeks should do the trick. maybe i'll start the deca two weeks prior/2 weeks after or i could just do 4 weeks post deca therapy. btw i'll take nolvadex 2 weeks after i start the test and then for at least 2 weeks after. pct will consist of probably clomid i may try small doses of hcg for the first time. does this sound reasonable?

 

[Turbo1]

BUMP i agree with the above post. SUS is meant to be taken EOD. Stick to the Test E and Deca. RUn the test at 400-500mg per week and Deca at 300mg. The dbol would be nice but if this your first time using Dbol then be ready for some night sweats lower back pain. Not all get this but my first time on Dbol i had to stop taking it after 5 days!

I'd run your cycle atleast 10 weeks bro. and make sure u run your test higher than the deca or your gonna be limp for awhile


Posted by Buff Diddy - 1 Hour Ago at 07:01 PM
i'm planning out my next cycle and have the choice to go with sust 250, omnadren or test enanthate. all are about the same price what would you pick? i'll probably go 250-500mg for 8-10 weeks. stacked with 300mg deca. i'm hoping using the deca at this dose won't be two difficult because i'm going to have to use 1 1/2 vials per injection. i could throw in some d-bol too if i wanted, maybe 20mg a day, but i probably won't cause i'm concerned about liver damage. i probably wouldn't think twice but truth is i like to party once in a while and don't want to mix the d-bol with any alcohol or pills. what do you guys think about this.
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[Buff Diddy]

BUMP i agree with the above post. SUS is meant to be taken EOD. Stick to the Test E and Deca. RUn the test at 400-500mg per week and Deca at 300mg. The dbol would be nice but if this your first time using Dbol then be ready for some night sweats lower back pain. Not all get this but my first time on Dbol i had to stop taking it after 5 days!

I'd run your cycle atleast 10 weeks bro. and make sure u run your test higher than the deca or your gonna be limp for awhile


are you sure about that? sust eod!? i agree that the d-bol would probably help. i could just throw it in at a low dose say 15-20mgs to try it. or even work it in gradually it starting at just 5mg a day then 10 and so on to see how i respond. a buddy of mine started taking it 25mg a day on his first cycle i think along with a bunch of test and wound up in the emergency room cause his heart was beating so fast.

 

[Turbo1]

BUMP i agree with the above post. SUS is meant to be taken EOD. Stick to the Test E and Deca. RUn the test at 400-500mg per week and Deca at 300mg. The dbol would be nice but if this your first time using Dbol then be ready for some night sweats lower back pain. Not all get this but my first time on Dbol i had to stop taking it after 5 days!

I'd run your cycle atleast 10 weeks bro. and make sure u run your test higher than the deca or your gonna be limp for awhile


are you sure about that? sust eod!? i agree that the d-bol would probably help. i could just throw it in at a low dose say 15-20mgs to try it. or even work it in gradually it starting at just 5mg a day then 10 and so on to see how i respond. a buddy of mine started taking it 25mg a day on his first cycle i think along with a bunch of test and wound up in the emergency room cause his heart was beating so fast.

Yes i'm positve about the SUS. Do a search on it bro. With the shorter acting esters in the SUS it is best to shoot it EOD. Dont get me wrong your still gonna grow if you shoot it twice a week but your levels will be more constant and less peaks if shot EOD. WIth the dbol remember it has like a 3-5 hour half life so you need to take it that often to get the best results. IF ya got the 5 or 10mg tabs then i would start off at 20mg/day. I had some of AGCL's 25mg caps and they kicked my ass! One more thing...how many cycles have you done? you said your next cycle in your first thread so is this your second? YOu sound kinda leary about all this. Just make sure your doing your homework bro and you get everything covered including your PCT!

 

[Buff Diddy]

Yes i'm positve about the SUS. Do a search on it bro. With the shorter acting esters in the SUS it is best to shoot it EOD. Dont get me wrong your still gonna grow if you shoot it twice a week but your levels will be more constant and less peaks if shot EOD. WIth the dbol remember it has like a 3-5 hour half life so you need to take it that often to get the best results. IF ya got the 5 or 10mg tabs then i would start off at 20mg/day. I had some of AGCL's 25mg caps and they kicked my ass! One more thing...how many cycles have you done? you said your next cycle in your first thread so is this your second? YOu sound kinda leary about all this. Just make sure your doing your homework bro and you get everything covered including your PCT!

from what i've read on sust it stays active for up to 3 weeks and that you could shoot it every 10 days and still get some results. i might consider biweekly but no way am i going to go into the eod range of 750-1000mg weekly. not yet anyway. i've done 4 or 5 mild cycles btw. for example 200mg deca/eq + 250mg test weekly. for my next one i want a 20 pound mass gainer w/min. side effects and min. water retention. i've decided to go w/test enanthate, deca and 20mg d-bol.

 

[crewboss]

for novice users I suggest enanthate because enth is a longer acting ester and easier to deal with. You can take one injection weekly and keep constant test levels through thus no spiked levels like sustanon. The point to a cycle is to keep constant levels for better gain, less side affects. Omna, and sust in my opinion is more of an advanced drug despite its common use and favorability among novice users. It just looks good with all that gear in there but little do they know it needs to be done frequently for proper use. It's a common misconception.

My analogy is this. If you are on a boat in high seas. If the boat keeps going up and down with the waves, don't you eventually get sea sick? I compare this to the constant spikes in sustanon or omna usage.

Enanthate in my opinion is the ideal novice gear. Dont get me wrong. There is enanthate in sustanon so you will still grow off them but not as good as you think or could if done properly. This is my opinion only.

The way to get the best out of sust or oman is to do them at the least every 3 days for the cyp in it. I forgot whats in omna's its different than sust but same activity. Sust and omna's actually should be done ED. Read my sustanon usage link to learn more.

good advice. very true about newbies and sus. enanthate is a better choice.

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

Thank you crewboss.

good advice. very true about newbies and sus. enanthate is a better choice.

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

Buff,

That fast or hard pounding of the heart is the result of the flush of hormones in the system. It is the temporary affect of high blood pressure and flush of test. This is temporary and the body has it's way of balancing out the system with accepting the newly introduced supplemented testosterone. Im sure in the emergency room the doctors seen high blood pressure and raised plasma levels or a slight fever and assumed the worst to feed your friends fears. In my opinion he should have done his research and expected this to happen as well as known this is a temporary affect and adjustment to the steroids. Hey, welcome to steroids that's what it does.

a buddy of mine started taking it 25mg a day on his first cycle i think along with a bunch of test and wound up in the emergency room cause his heart was beating so fast.