On Cycle. Motivation is Zero.

[Tbaz192]

What’s up yall! How often do y’all see complete lost of motivation when you’re on cycle? I’ve driven to the gym all hyped and ready to go and then drive home….
Because damn! I’ve run Test for years, anavar, dbol, etc. never had issues.
Currently I’m about 6 weeks into Test/Tren cycle. Normally I’m on TRT and 2iu growth just to keep my juices flowing lol.
Cycle is 3iu of growth daily (ramping up week by week) 600mg test & 250mg tren split 3 times a week. I’m using aromasin 6mg twice a week. Didn’t take it till about week 3. Nipples were getting real itchy & sensitive. I aromatize pretty easy. ( 300mg test a week my estrogen over 100+) Getting labs done this week to triple check everything.
so far nothing wild other than losing all motivation… physique is getting leaner/ bigger for sure. But lack of gym time is showing as well. Im a little aggressive/snappy. I definitely don’t have the insane sides or libido that people talk about… so idk what’s going on. Maybe the tren just fucks with me hard? Would love y’alls opinion.

 

[easterbunny]

It‘s currently the same for me on a Test/Tren/Var cut.

Are you in a calorie deficit as well? I find the combination of worse sleep, the toxicity of Tren and very little food straight up fucks you up. Lethargy, moodiness,… That’s where you have to rely on discipline and just continue.

 

[OmL]

Well if Tren is the only difference now, you’re like this, drop the Tren? Seems straight forward.

 

[Tbaz192]

It‘s currently the same for me on a Test/Tren/Var cut.

Are you in a calorie deficit as well? I find the combination of worse sleep, the toxicity of Tren and very little food straight up fucks you up. Lethargy, moodiness,… That’s where you have to rely on discipline and just continue.

Currently in a slight deficit. But nothing crazy. 6’3 220 last week. Maybe I’ll for sure up the food a tad more. See how I feel. Sleep definitely has been mediocre. The damn night sweats wake me up

 

[Tbaz192]

Well if Tren is the only difference now, you’re like this, drop the Tren? Seems straight forward.

Haha you right. Going to tweak a few things. If it doesn’t help. I’m dropping it

 

[Juiceduptothemax]

Tren makes me lazy I hate it, I will never take tren again for multiple reasons

 

[Tbaz192]

Tren makes me lazy I hate it, I will never take tren again for multiple reasons

Really feeling that currently, I’ve been LAZY. But I push thru it some what. Sometimes it gets me and I drive home and binge tv shows

 

[lukiss96]

I think your estrogen is on the lower side and you're overdoing on AI. See what the labs will say.

Thing is I used to need quite a bit of anastrozole too and I'm sensitive to estrogen. However, over the years I have noticed quite significant reduction for the need to dose AI. I believe my body adapted and changed over time.

 

[Tbaz192]

I think your estrogen is on the lower side and you're overdoing on AI. See what the labs will say.

Thing is I used to need quite a bit of anastrozole too and I'm sensitive to estrogen. However, over the years I have noticed quite significant reduction for the need to dose AI. I believe my body adapted and changed over time

Also a thought I had. I’m Getting labs Friday!

 

[jJjburton]

Also a thought I had. I’m Getting labs Friday!

Lethargy is a side effect, it sucks, power through

 

[Xplicit]

Tren had this effect on me before I started medicating for ADHD (I am not the hyper shiny object kind).

After I started ritalin, I dont have this issue. Not to say thats your answer, point is Tren can effect dopamine and seratonin and it use to make me lazyyy. In fact, id argue I spun my wheels for years from this. Id tren for several weeks into... skipping the gym and letting my diet go off the rails.

Havent had that issue at all since ritalin. All that said, I am moving away from tren more and more as I get older, HGH/Mast/EQ/Test does everything I would want from Tren (minus the effect Tren has on IGF). If you cant train, whats the point?

 

[Tbaz192]

Tren had this effect on me before I started medicating for ADHD (I am not the hyper shiny object kind).

After I started ritalin, I dont have this issue. Not to say thats your answer, point is Tren can effect dopamine and seratonin and it use to make me lazyyy. In fact, id argue I spun my wheels for years from this. Id tren for several weeks into... skipping the gym and letting my diet go off the rails.

Havent had that issue at all since ritalin. All that said, I am moving away from tren more and more as I get older, HGH/Mast/EQ/Test does everything I would want from Tren (minus the effect Tren has on IGF). If you cant train, whats the point?

so funny enough I’m also on Ritalin, didn’t mention that before because my first post was already long enough. I’m going to up my dose a little more and see if that can help combat the Tren laziness. But also try to keep my body/heart happy. Don’t want to get more sides.
( I’m currently on 10mg XR Ritalin and I have 10mg instant release for an extra pick me up)

 

[callisto]

I think your estrogen is on the lower side and you're overdoing on AI. See what the labs will say.

Thing is I used to need quite a bit of anastrozole too and I'm sensitive to estrogen. However, over the years I have noticed quite significant reduction for the need to dose AI. I believe my body adapted and changed over time.

i would rather guess that his e2 is still high.
he says its over 100 on 300 test, and hes on 600 test with 6mg asin 3x week.
that asin dosage may be barely sufficient for the 300 test.
plus the extra estrogen sensitisation from the tren (yes, tren does that, many dont know).

 

[Tbaz192]

i would rather guess that his e2 is still high.
he says its over 100 on 300 test, and hes on 600 test with 6mg asin 3x week.
that asin dosage may be barely sufficient for the 300 test.
plus the extra estrogen sensitisation from the tren (yes, tren does that, many dont know).

Yeah… I typically used Adex. Switched to aromasin due to source change. Haven’t gotten labs to see how I respond to asin, so im not upping or lowering the AI dose till I get labs. I don’t have any bad sides other than what I stated. So I’ll deal with that for a few days lol. Im getting labs Friday afternoon to pin point everything.
I’ll post up the labs/relay the info here.

 

[buzzingonaas]

Gonna be honest and respond if I was talking to myself in your position. Why are you taking gear? If you’re leaving the gym and SKIPPING training (the only real good part about this anyways), why are you taking gear at all? I’ve never skipped training before and trust me Ive felt terrible and unmotivated. I can’t justify being on a cycle if life has gotten so bad that I can justify skipping a training session. Or skipping a meal for that matter

 

[lukiss96]

Gonna be honest and respond if I was talking to myself in your position. Why are you taking gear? If you’re leaving the gym and SKIPPING training (the only real good part about this anyways), why are you taking gear at all? I’ve never skipped training before and trust me Ive felt terrible and unmotivated. I can’t justify being on a cycle if life has gotten so bad that I can justify skipping a training session. Or skipping a meal for that matter

True. When I traded my natty card, I knew that now with steroids there will be absolutely 0 excuses. Not that I cheated when I was natural, but here everything must be maxed out. Even though I blasted and cruised, there was no point in risking my health for nothing. I can rest some on a cruise, but not let myself go. This lifestyle costs, so make some sacrifices and it pays off well.

 

[Mishka]

I once did those "new school" thing, like 100-150 test e per week and filled the rest up with other steroids. I had like 0 motivation for anything too. When I went back to "old school" dosage - like "test is best" - the motivation came back. Maybe it could be that in your case too.

 

[Tbaz192]

Gonna be honest and respond if I was talking to myself in your position. Why are you taking gear? If you’re leaving the gym and SKIPPING training (the only real good part about this anyways), why are you taking gear at all? I’ve never skipped training before and trust me Ive felt terrible and unmotivated. I can’t justify being on a cycle if life has gotten so bad that I can justify skipping a training session. Or skipping a meal for that matter

So I probably should’ve gone way more into detail. But I didn’t want my whole post to be a huge essay lol. I’ve probably only skipped the gym/lift a few times. And that’s when the motivation was awful and I felt terrible etc. I also work a manual labor job all day 7am to 4pm so I’m stupidly active all day. Demo work, hauling/lifting heavy stuff all day. Sure that’s not a legit workout obviously. But it definitely leaves me sore and burning calories. So in response to work I stay hydrated and eat a lot.
As far as why am I taking gear at all…. I naturally had test levels under 200. Life was miserable. Got put on TRT after we tried to fix certain things. After a few years I dabbled in smaller doses of things. Anavar, dbol etc. We all strive to do certain things. Look a certain way etc. guess that’s why. Sure some might find that as a dumb excuse or whatever. But people can do whatever they want. Even with the costs. I definitely understand the potential costs that come with it.

 

[Tbaz192]

True. When I traded my natty card, I knew that now with steroids there will be absolutely 0 excuses. Not that I cheated when I was natural, but here everything must be maxed out. Even though I blasted and cruised, there was no point in risking my health for nothing. I can rest some on a cruise, but not let myself go. This lifestyle costs, so make some sacrifices and it pays off well.

100% once I started to get into more things. I flipped that switch and was like I can’t make excuses on diet and other things. But unfortunately sometimes you go to the gym and feel awful. And going thru that lift will just leave you so depleted & you feel like shit ex: when you’re sick or missed a meal or two because life gets busy. So I move a little weight/ do cardio or mobility work. Small little things can get in the way. Unfortunately I can’t live a bodybuilder life style where I’m strictly just living to eat, train, relax, eat more and get huge. I have bills to pay and work to deal with :/

 

[buzzingonaas]

So I probably should’ve gone way more into detail. But I didn’t want my whole post to be a huge essay lol. I’ve probably only skipped the gym/lift a few times. And that’s when the motivation was awful and I felt terrible etc. I also work a manual labor job all day 7am to 4pm so I’m stupidly active all day. Demo work, hauling/lifting heavy stuff all day. Sure that’s not a legit workout obviously. But it definitely leaves me sore and burning calories. So in response to work I stay hydrated and eat a lot.
As far as why am I taking gear at all…. I naturally had test levels under 200. Life was miserable. Got put on TRT after we tried to fix certain things. After a few years I dabbled in smaller doses of things. Anavar, dbol etc. We all strive to do certain things. Look a certain way etc. guess that’s why. Sure some might find that as a dumb excuse or whatever. But people can do whatever they want. Even with the costs. I definitely understand the potential costs that come with it.

Makes a little more sense. I had to quit my career and move to something else because it was 12-14 hour days of physical labor and I wanted to bodybuild. Most people cant just up and quit though. I think I still wouldn’t commit to a full cycle until either work had slowed down enough or I had some sort of routine where I knew I’d be able to be perfect with my training schedule (and eat enough to be gaining that 1-2lb/week on top of all the calories I was burning at work)