Opinions of this cycle/stack please.

[solo47]

I say Indians because that's what we call native Americans this side of the world dumbass. I don't need educated in geography, thanks all the same. PC ain't priority here....

Well, my Indian lady (with ancestry in India) haughtily notes she is not a N.A. native, and my 1st Nations students & daughter formerly & mistakenly known as "Indians" now generally take offence to be so addressed. However, here in Canada, our Dept of Indian Affairs still manages or negotiates 1st Nations affairs, so it's still conceptually messy. Archeology is beginning to show that the first arrivals here were not just of one "race" but a mixture of types arriving from Asia who then killed each other off until the typical mongolian-looking race predominated, though they look much different in the two hemispheres.

I know the Gaelic pride of the Irish, Mac, and with reason: it's hard to prove any humans were on already on the island when Gaels & Celts began to arrive, but, in general, the human story has been one of movement, conflict, and displacement, followed by either destruction, colonization, or absorption (sometimes the invaders' culture being absorbed). There are no true natives who have occupied their lands since forevermore.

There will not be a test!

Solo

 

[Jagger34]

LOL I have had zero interaction with mac in a week now and he is still mentioning me in 5 threads and counting. Such a little attention seeker that mac. Letting me live in his head rent free lol

 

[Pericles]

Well, my Indian lady (with ancestry in India) haughtily notes she is not a N.A. native, and my 1st Nations students & daughter formerly & mistakenly known as "Indians" now generally take offence to be so addressed. However, here in Canada, our Dept of Indian Affairs still manages or negotiates 1st Nations affairs, so it's still conceptually messy. Archeology is beginning to show that the first arrivals here were not just of one "race" but a mixture of types arriving from Asia who then killed each other off until the typical mongolian-looking race predominated, though they look much different in the two hemispheres.

I know the Gaelic pride of the Irish, Mac, and with reason: it's hard to prove any humans were on already on the island when Gaels & Celts began to arrive, but, in general, the human story has been one of movement, conflict, and displacement, followed by either destruction, colonization, or absorption (sometimes the invaders' culture being absorbed). There are no true natives who have occupied their lands since forevermore.

There will not be a test!

Solo

The overwhelming consensus is that Native Americans came over from Asia about 18-20K years ago, although in their religion/lore they have always been here. Thanks to the Europeans,through disease and genocide, they went from as much as 100 million (some scholars put the number as low as 500 million....but consensus is shifting to the higher estimate) to 280K, the worst slaughter in human history.

 

[Sworder]

The overwhelming consensus is that Native Americans came over from Asia about 18-20K years ago, although in their religion/lore they have always been here. Thanks to the Europeans,through disease and genocide, they went from as much as 100 million (some scholars put the number as low as 500 million....but consensus is shifting to the higher estimate) to 280K, the worst slaughter in human history.

Brush up on your Native American history and history in general of how power over land is transferred! There was actually some resistance from the Native Americans in case you didn't know. The reason why it would be considered a slaughter is because of the difference in technology. Native Americans didn't use something which may be considered useful e.g. a wheel neither did they ride on a horse. Makes a difference in battle.

Slaughters/massacres worthy of note: Nankin, St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre, Babi Yar, Katyn, Thessalonica, Sabra and Shatila Massacre, some would argue that the Jews suffered a pretty big loss too in WW2.. Don't know if it is fair to say that the conflict between the Spanish/British/Native Americans was that big of a "massacre" or "slaughter" in comparison. There were massacres which took place but most of the killings were from battles. Just my opinion as I try to stay somewhat objective, I don't feel any association at all to the British/Spanish whom was colonizing North America. Like I said in a previous post, it's not the first time a colonization takes place but Americans in general want to seem so sympathetic and feel sorry for Native Americans when they don't give two shits. Place them in Reserves and give em casinos, yay Americans are so kind. Put forth a bill and give em back the land instead of just "feeling sorry". Actions speak louder than soft spoken sympathy.

Edit: Explaining to "Pericles" about military strategy/colonization seems somewhat futile as you should have a clear grasp of it one would think. Athenians weren't as sympathetic if memory serves correctly. Could perhaps take a look at a map and see how they fared in battle.

 

[mac111]

Ah, the maggot crawls out from below it'd rock again.

 

[solo47]

The overwhelming consensus is that Native Americans came over from Asia about 18-20K years ago, although in their religion/lore they have always been here. Thanks to the Europeans,through disease and genocide, they went from as much as 100 million (some scholars put the number as low as 500 million....but consensus is shifting to the higher estimate) to 280K, the worst slaughter in human history.

The worst slaughter in human history? That would be tough one: No one kept accurate records, but the WW2 Holocaust certainly qualifies. I seem to recall the Mongol hordes in invasion after invasion of Asia and parts of Europe often did not bother to control or assimilate but simply burnt and murdered by the millions. That would be a slaughter. Sad as cultural deprivation is, it probably stands, along with disease, as the major cause of so-called 1st Nations population loss. Before and even after Europeans arrived, each native tribe considered itself basically at war with all other tribes, though brief alliances or tolerance boundaries did take place. They arrived in at least two and probably three or even four separate migrations over the Bering Strait, each migration of a slightly different racial group, plus there are unconfirmed signs of Polynesian influences in western S.A. Not all of these peoples were varied classical mongolian types, as there were groups that might be classified as caucasian (though they were of Asian ancestry, like the Ainu). Such divergent groups likely killed each other on sight.

Ah, we humans, we'd rather fight than share, and it's been that way since we first wiped out the other remaining hominid group, our racial cousins the Neanderthals (though we find out now that 4 to 5% of some of our blood is Neanderthal, as if we can't see them everywhere around us)!

Now it's time to stop treating any group different or distinct from any other. And this includes granting historical reparations, or new tracts of land, or an unofficial welfare grant that just keeps certain groups from seeking employment or education.

Hey, this is fun!

Solo

(P.S. Pericles was the great spokesman for democracy, but he himself ruled as virtually a dictator and classical Athens was a democracy of only the very few. As you may know, the Athenian Empire had no qualms about breaking its treaties and totally annihilating whole cities that stood in the way of its expansion. Still, gotta love Pericles, but only if you love Socrates more.)

 

[Pericles]

Solo, good account of the nature of humn existence (a War of all against all that ceases only in death.....my favorite Hobessian quote). Interesting note about the 4-5% Neanderthal in modern humans.....I think it is 60-70% in Mac[)]

In regards to your critique of the Athenians, that is a revisionist perspective held by scholars such as John Gunnell (I know because I wrote my Masters thesis on him, and went to study under him for my PhD). A lot of his type in UNC, too.

However I found their revisions empty, especially the claim that everything is relative, IE there is no good and bad, just hermenuetical perspectives that are artificial constructs. I know that there is good and bad, and agree with Socrates that the unexamined life is not worth living. I eventually switched my specialty to American Politics.

 

[Pericles]

Also, you claim that we should treat everyone equally....then in the next sentence say that we should give prferential treatment....which is it?

 

[Pericles]

Back to the OT, picking up some Masteron and another bottle of var.

Now I can run out of the EQ and Deca at week 8, and switch to Masteron.

Can run Var at 30 mg per day for 2 months.

 

[leoclaw79]

did you get masteron prop or enanthate?

 

[Pericles]

did you get masteron prop or enanthate?

Its from Rozi....it doesn't say on his web page. I am assuming it is prop and I will need to inject eod.

 

[Pericles]

did you get masteron prop or enanthate?

Its from Roxi....it doesn't say on his web page. I am assuming it is prop and I will need to inject eod.

 

[solo47]

Solo, good account of the nature of humn existence (a War of all against all that ceases only in death.....my favorite Hobessian quote). Interesting note about the 4-5% Neanderthal in modern humans.....I think it is 60-70% in Mac[)]

In regards to your critique of the Athenians, that is a revisionist perspective held by scholars such as John Gunnell (I know because I wrote my Masters thesis on him, and went to study under him for my PhD). A lot of his type in UNC, too.

However I found their revisions empty, especially the claim that everything is relative, IE there is no good and bad, just hermenuetical perspectives that are artificial constructs. I know that there is good and bad, and agree with Socrates that the unexamined life is not worth living. I eventually switched my specialty to American Politics.

Hobbes was not quite right. We humans will identify with our people (our culture) to the extent that we will give our lives for it, thus proving that often individual life comes second to that of the life of the cultural group we identify with. But to identify with one culture often that others not of that culture are regarded as less than human, thus disposable. Therein lies our quandary: how to create a feeling of being at home on the planet.

Nothing at all "revisionist" in my account of Athenian democracy or the Athenian Empire (the so-called Delian League), my friend. These are well-known facts. Ask the dead of Miletus about the Athenians.

I also agree that there is more or less good and more or less bad, along a continuum. Cultural difference does NOT make certain actions acceptable just because it's okay in that culture. For example, If a culture believes in killing its daughters when they allow their face veil to slip in public, then that culture is inhuman and should be universally abhorred. If a culture believes in killing off or enslaving a certain group based on nothing more than group identification, then that culture is against human values and should be abhorred. It is not tolerant to tolerate intolerance. And there are universals of right and wrong, based on whether humanity as whole is benefitting from such and such action or being harmed by it.

'Nuff said.

Solo

 

[Pericles]

So, back to the OT: I have more goodies thanks to Roxi. I am going to start w/ a shot of 600mg deca. Five days later I will add 200mg of test, and I will continue 4-500mg of deca and 200 test per week for 2 more weeks. Then I will add the Equipoise, 200 mg per week. At 6 weeks, I will drop the deca and add Masteron, 350 mg per week (can I get away w/ eod injections, or should I be a pincushion and inject every day....it is Mast prop). At 9 weeks I will drop down to only 200 mg of test for a week, and then 150 mg for a week ( I like slow tapers).

I have 2 bottles of liquid Anavar (10 ccs each, 100mg per cc). I will start after second week, and then run it for about 8 weeks. I am only doing 30 mg a day, so I think 8 weeks will be OK.

I will run some HCG (150 IUs, 3 times a week) that is in my fridge and will be good for 5 more weeks. If I get HCG from sworders source (inexpensive and low dosed) I will stay one HCG all throughout. I have plenty of Clomid, Nolvadex (will probably do 10 mg a day unless I need more) Letrozol (I only use it if I am doing large doses of HCG) and high dosage HCG so my PCT is ready.

One last question: How should I dose the anavar? I have never used this drug before. It has a half life of 8 hours. I think the way to go is in the morning, 15 mg, and 15 mg before I train.

Thoughtful advice is appreciated.