Opinions on my homebrew and blood work

[mjf]

I couldn't help it. I decided to give this it's own thread. Disregard this same reply in my filtering thread.


I brewed my own prop and was taking it for about 2 weeks. I wasn't feeling like it was right, felt like it was crap powder and I got ripped off. So I stopped the npp and kept the test prop dosed at 150mg eod for a week, then pulled some blood work. My tt came back at 1132ng/dL on a range of 250-1100 scale. It's not totally bunk I guess but that's really low for that dose right?

I brewed it exactly as the recipe said, didn't add 10% powder as someone has since told me do to account for dirty/underdosed raws.

What's everyone's opinion here? Brew it at double the strength perthe recipe next time or what? Unfortunately I have npp and tren ace powder from the same place and there aren't blood tests to show if thise are disedcorrectly.

 

[Wunderpus]

I couldn't help it. I decided to give this it's own thread. Disregard this same reply in my filtering thread.


I brewed my own prop and was taking it for about 2 weeks. I wasn't feeling like it was right, felt like it was crap powder and I got ripped off. So I stopped the npp and kept the test prop dosed at 150mg eod for a week, then pulled some blood work. My tt came back at 1132ng/dL on a range of 250-1100 scale. It's not totally bunk I guess but that's really low for that dose right?

I brewed it exactly as the recipe said, didn't add 10% powder as someone has since told me do to account for dirty/underdosed raws.

What's everyone's opinion here? Brew it at double the strength perthe recipe next time or what? Unfortunately I have npp and tren ace powder from the same place and there aren't blood tests to show if thise are disedcorrectly.

Seems very low, that's about 2x, right?

 

[mjf]

To add to the above, before starting to use my own brew, i was using ugl gear of rhe same dose as I brewed, so 100mg/ml test prop, 100mg/ml npp, and 10pmg/ml tren ace.

I dropped the tren ace 3 weeks before blood work, dropped npp 1 weeks before blood work, and switched from ugl prop to my prop 2 weeks before blood work. Hope that makes sense. With the short half life the ugl prop would have been competely out of my system at the time of blood work I think, so the 1132 reading was from my own prop at 1.5ml eod.

 

[mjf]

Seems very low, that's about 2x, right?

Seems low to me. Never done prop before. But test e at aplrox 600mg pet week, sllit into 2 injections puts me around 3000-3800.

 

[Wunderpus]

I would expect it to be somewhere within that range, maybe a bit shy, but still more than 2x.

 

[mjf]

I would expect it to be somewhere within that range, maybe a bit shy, but still more than 2x.

You think I should try the next brew at 2x the powder or give up, call this one a loss and toss this powder. In haste, I already ordered new powder from a more reputable, and more expensive, supplier.

I hate to waste 95 g of powder if I can find a way to reliably compensate for the underdose. But prop will only hold up to about 200mg/ml right? Will it hold if I brew it at 200mg maybe higher to account for the underdose? Would it need more bb?

 

[Wunderpus]

You think I should try the next brew at 2x the powder or give up, call this one a loss and toss this powder. In haste, I already ordered new powder from a more reputable, and more expensive, supplier.

I hate to waste 95 g of powder if I can find a way to reliably compensate for the underdose. But prop will only hold up to about 200mg/ml right? Will it hold if I brew it at 200mg maybe higher to account for the underdose? Would it need more bb?

I've never brewed prop before, so i'm not sure. I can't imagine the PIP at 200mg/ml, though (if it were to even hold).

 

[mjf]

Pip is the reason i staryed brewing my own. 100mg ugl prop hurt like a mofo. My 100mg, which obviously isn't 100mg, is smooth.

So if my raw is underdosed, then adding more, double, powder the solution should still hold, correct? Or is my thinking off. Is it the amount of overall powder used in the oil that causes it to crash or the amount or hormone?

 

[Wunderpus]

Pip is the reason i staryed brewing my own. 100mg ugl prop hurt like a mofo. My 100mg, which obviously isn't 100mg, is smooth.

So if my raw is underdosed, then adding more, double, powder the solution should still hold, correct? Or is my thinking off. Is it the amount of overall powder used in the oil that causes it to crash or the amount or hormone?

Who knows HOW underdosed it is, or what it is... Don't play with fire, IMO.

 

[mjf]

Who knows HOW underdosed it is, or what it is... Don't play with fire, IMO.

I'm gonna need a second opinion on this one. That's a decent amount of money's worth of supplies to put in the garbage.

Of course, if it is garbage, that's where it belongs. It's funny, the person who recommended this supplier to me hasn't ever responded or even pm'd me. I don't care enough to even look at the last time he was online. One second he says I'll send you the recipe I use tomorrow, 4 months later, not a peep.

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm gonna need a second opinion on this one. That's a decent amount of money's worth of supplies to put in the garbage.

Of course, if it is garbage, that's where it belongs. It's funny, the person who recommended this supplier to me hasn't ever responded or even pm'd me. I don't care enough to even look at the last time he was online. One second he says I'll send you the recipe I use tomorrow, 4 months later, not a peep.

I understand. I just don't know enough about prop to be able to accurately help you... @Docd187123 @nophat any ideas?

 

[Docd187123]

Pip is the reason i staryed brewing my own. 100mg ugl prop hurt like a mofo. My 100mg, which obviously isn't 100mg, is smooth.

So if my raw is underdosed, then adding more, double, powder the solution should still hold, correct? Or is my thinking off. Is it the amount of overall powder used in the oil that causes it to crash or the amount or hormone?

Not necessarily. If underdosed 10% and you overdose 50%......

I'd get bloods done first before assuming anything.

 

[mjf]

Not necessarily. If underdosed 10% and you overdose 50%......

I'd get bloods done first before assuming anything.

Are you saying to brew more, only slightly overdosed, maybe 10-20% then get more blood work to see where that puts me? Because I just did bloods on this batch.

 

[Docd187123]

Are you saying to brew more, only slightly overdosed, maybe 10-20% then get more blood work to see where that puts me? Because I just did bloods on this batch.

Are you saying to brew more, only slightly overdosed, maybe 10-20% then get more blood work to see where that puts me? Because I just did bloods on this batch.

Didn't read the beginning of the thread earlier but just caught up. How long after the last injection did you test your prop?

 

[mjf]

My memory just got a little fuzzy on the exact timing. I inject eod at night and had the blood test early in the morning. I think it was an injection day that I drew bloods, so the morning before I was scheduled to do the next shot that night.

 

[mjf]

I just looked back at my calendar. I now think that bloods were drawn the morning after a shot the night before.

I have to put everything in my calendar. Busy life, 4 kids, I get a little scatter-brained.

 

[mjf]

Didn't read the beginning of the thread earlier but just caught up. How long after the last injection did you test your prop?

Now that I have you here on this subject. I purchased 100g each test prop, tren ace, and npp from the same supplier. There isn't a cheap way to test concentration of gear and no blood tests that I know of for my other two hornones. After we figure out the prop issue, how do we go about finding an aternative other than the trash can for my my npp and tren?

 

[Docd187123]

Now that I have you here on this subject. I purchased 100g each test prop, tren ace, and npp from the same supplier. There isn't a cheap way to test concentration of gear and no blood tests that I know of for my other two hornones. After we figure out the prop issue, how do we go about finding an aternative other than the trash can for my my npp and tren?

Some people like labmax (I don't). Other option is quantitative testing like Simec or a similar lab. Ecstacydata might tell you what compounds are present but not actual concentrations.

 

[mjf]

Some people like labmax (I don't). Other option is quantitative testing like Simec or a similar lab. Ecstacydata might tell you what compounds are present but not actual concentrations.

Aren't the tests that tell you concentration, expensive? I thought I read somewhere it was around $250 to send a vial for testing. If that's the price, I'd be better off trashing this and putting that money toward new product.

 

[Docd187123]

Aren't the tests that tell you concentration, expensive? I thought I read somewhere it was around $250 to send a vial for testing. If that's the price, I'd be better off trashing this and putting that money toward new product.

Yes, it's not cheap