Opti tropin GH serum and IGF test results

[JTR90]

Here are my GH serum results from opti tropins GH, I pinned 10 units 2 hours before testing and my normal dose I’ve been on is 5 units fasted and 10 units post workout. I am dieting so I understand IGF could be a little lower.

However with previous source my IGF tested much higher at 325 so I am questioning the integrity of this GH

 

[jtmarlin]

I'm on 3 units of Stan's GH and that took my IGF to 276 from 160

 

[Jron]

Damn bro. I was considering running GH for the first time and now I’m worried UGL GH is gonna be a waste of money.

Curious to see more feedback from guys here who have been on UGL GH for a long time have to say about your results.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm on 3 units of Stan's GH and that took my IGF to 276 from 160

We're you cutting?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Damn bro. I was considering running GH for the first time and now I’m worried UGL GH is gonna be a waste of money.

Curious to see more feedback from guys here who have been on UGL GH for a long time have to say about your results.

I have compared UGL to serostim. Tested the same for me


Igf1 only means so much as well

 

[Ateam2023]

Damn bro. I was considering running GH for the first time and now I’m worried UGL GH is gonna be a waste of money.

Curious to see more feedback from guys here who have been on UGL GH for a long time have to say about your results.

TL;DR ,, i was in a calorie deficit for too long (2years) so my igf1 numbers arent that good for the amount of hgh @5 ius daily , but i have reaped the benefits of hgh besides just a igf1 number, and in my 50's i feel its helped tremendously for recovery as well as lypolosis and lean tissue gain, in last 8 months ive gained 11 lbs of lean muscle mass dropped 2% bf down to 10 % currently confirmed through dexa scan i had Tuesday, and ive only been basically 200 mg test c weekly 5 ius hgh , , Diet and cardio , water etc have been on point also, All Ugl hgh ,,

 

[jtmarlin]

We're you cutting?

I'm in a contest prep yes although this was at a recomp level of calories

 

[AlexDavis43]

Here are my GH serum results from opti tropins GH, I pinned 10 units 2 hours before testing and my normal dose I’ve been on is 5 units fasted and 10 units post workout. I am dieting so I understand IGF could be a little lower.

However with previous source my IGF tested much higher at 325 so I am questioning the integrity of this GH

To be clear you're getting IGF1 @ 257 on 15 IU hGH/d? No bueno.

 

[Ateam2023]

To be clear you're getting IGF1 @ 257 on 15 IU hGH/d? No bueno.

i feel heluva alot better about my 200+ igf1 @5 iu , lol

 

[juicebro]

I probably take the cake for the most GH used while having the lowest IGF-1. Those last two numbers were when I was taking huge dosages after my gyno surgery. Over 30IUs daily. Was it 36? I can't remember exactly. And I had been taking that much for at least a month. Before that I was on a vial a day (12IUs).

As you can see my igf-1 has always been in the shitter. I don't think it has mattered as far as my physique goes though. I also don't think it would be any different with pharma gh. I'm always on tren too. That might have something to do with it.

I am using optis.

 

[Ateam2023]

I probably take the cake for the most GH used while having the lowest IGF-1. Those last two numbers were when I was taking huge dosages after my gyno surgery. Over 30IUs daily. Was it 36? I can't remember exactly. And I had been taking that much for at least a month. Before that I was on a vial a day (12IUs).

As you can see my igf-1 has always been in the shitter. I don't think it has mattered as far as my physique goes though. I also don't think it would be any different with pharma gh. I'm always on tren too. That might have something to do with it.


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but im sure you reaped some benefits from the hgh, Did it change your physique alot ?

 

[juicebro]

but im sure you reaped some benefits from the hgh, Did it change your physique alot ?

It has made all the difference.

 

[DinoBB76]

I probably take the cake for the most GH used while having the lowest IGF-1. Those last two numbers were when I was taking huge dosages after my gyno surgery. Over 30IUs daily. Was it 36? I can't remember exactly. And I had been taking that much for at least a month. Before that I was on a vial a day (12IUs).

As you can see my igf-1 has always been in the shitter. I don't think it has mattered as far as my physique goes though. I also don't think it would be any different with pharma gh. I'm always on tren too. That might have something to do with it.

I am using optis.

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possible causes

1) AI abuse over time reduces the IGF1 response to GH to zero

2) genetics

3) liver problems

in these cases the benefits of GH become practically few, a little fat loss, but hypertrophy and muscle mass are inhibited with an IGF1 that does not rise

 

[juicebro]

possible causes

1) AI abuse over time reduces the IGF1 response to GH to zero

2) genetics

3) liver problems

in these cases the benefits of GH become practically few, a little fat loss, but hypertrophy and muscle mass are inhibited with an IGF1 that does not rise

The response is far from zero and my liver is fine. From what I understand serum IGF-1 is completely irrelevant anyway.

 

[Proud Pangolin]

Here are my GH serum results from opti tropins GH, I pinned 10 units 2 hours before testing and my normal dose I’ve been on is 5 units fasted and 10 units post workout. I am dieting so I understand IGF could be a little lower.

However with previous source my IGF tested much higher at 325 so I am questioning the integrity of this GH

Wait. Have I understood you correctly? You are running 15 IU of GH per day and your igf-1 is at 257 ???????



Im really confused by GH because some peopel will say "4IU will put your igf-1 at 400" and then you come along with 15IU and a igf-1 level of 257

 

[Proud Pangolin]

possible causes

1) AI abuse over time reduces the IGF1 response to GH to zero

2) genetics

3) liver problems

in these cases the benefits of GH become practically few, a little fat loss, but hypertrophy and muscle mass are inhibited with an IGF1 that does not rise

AI abuse? Aromatase inhibitor abuse?

 

[DinoBB76]

AI abuse? Aromatase inhibitor abuse?

yes , i see a lot of people that abuse... every day 1mg arimidex or 25mg aromasin.... femara 2/3 times a week

 

[Proud Pangolin]

yes , i see a lot of people that abuse... every day 1mg arimidex or 25mg aromasin.... femara 2/3 times a week

But what has AI abuse to do with igf-1 ?

 

[Eddie.]

But what has AI abuse to do with igf-1 ?

AI as a substance i believe nothing, crashed estradiol from too much AI, a lot. You need healthy estrogen levels for IGF conversion.

 

[DinoBB76]

But what has AI abuse to do with igf-1 ?

with estrogen reduced to 0 (10-20), your IGF1 is greatly destroyed, it is useless to do a lot of GH if you then use a lot of AIs, I prefer perhaps to reduce the testosterone dose or avoid too many AIs by modulating the cycle