OTC AI and Estrogen Blockers

JCMC64

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Hello, I am new here and am very grateful to this website and the wealth of info...very impressive.

So many questions, but first- I will be consulting with Swale as a patient within a few days, so I'm confident I'll be in good hands regarding HRT.

My questions is in the estrogen area. I've read both docs 1) "a recipe for success" and 2) David Z's primer (as well as most active threads for the last week). So I've learned a little about HRT and E2, which is definately one thing I intuitively feel is wrong with me personally- too high of E2 (within next week I will know levels in blood as I requested E2 test by Extraction method through my Endo). I have allot of the symptons I've read about on this site re. too high E2. My total T is floating between 220 and 400 (240-827ng/dl - 2 test on T in 2 month span), and free T is 91 (34-194pg/ml), and Bio T 188 (84-402ng/dl) -- All in lower half ranges (can this "possibly" indicate theoritically higher than normal E2's, when T's are that low??)

I was wondering if anyone has looked into the flood of OTC compounds coming into the market regarding AI\estrogen blockers. Obviously a war is beginning in this area between competing supp companies as was the case with the pro Hormone war started up in around 98'. The first one I became aware of was 6 oxo, and some Bulk supp websites version of AI's. Now every muscle mag I read has full 2 page spreads on it like Gaspari's Novedex XT, ISA-Test by Isatori Tech, ALRI's Ultra H.O.T., Kilo Sports Attack, IDS LH Boost and Anti Aromatase, Cellucor P6, etc. There are many reasons why some would go this route - lack of Insurance or funds for HRT, believing in advertising, etc.

Has anyone here done any due diligence on these compounds (anyone that isn't jaded already by some of the constant B.S. advertising we endure)? I know its good\a must to be skeptical, but I have also learn there were products that did deliver pretty well during the pro-hormone years.

In the end, for myself personally I know the most common sense is to go with meds tried and tested for years, AI's that have been discused about since the dawn of time. I am asking purely from a science point of view. (though I have read articles about Clomid even being suspect allot of times as an effective AI)

Thx in advance for any input.
 
I have been using the ALRI Ultra Hot at 4 caps per day since DIM did not seem to do anything for me at doses of 240-480mg doses per day. I consult with Author L Rea, whom is behind the Ultra HOT development. He told me that he has yet to see it not do equally as well as Arimidex, plus it supposedly keeps the
testicles stimulated similar to HCG. I will be doing an estradiol test this Wed or Thurs that will validate or invalidate its efficacy.
 
I tried a lot of OTC crap to get my E2 down and some of it was DIM. Then I took Arimidex one half of a one mg pill everyday for a month. My E2 levels came down fast. But to keep it down using Arimidex is hard I was going to low I went to low 3 times and the last time I was low for to long and it made me dam sick. I would rather be to high then to low. I took me 2 months to feel good again. I was doing as low a 1/4 of a one mg pill of Arimidex every 5 days and my test came back to low.

David Z told me about the Indolplex/DIM that he uses I got some and took one pill a day and it did the job. Plus It make me feel better my libido came up and my morning wood came back real hard ones the kind that wake you up. There is a lot of junk out there so I got the same thing David Z used.
Here is a link.
http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html
There are a lot of men using this once the word got out and not one has said it did not work for them.
Phil
 
Vforce, thx... keep me updated here on this thread...very interested in your results.

Phil- I have read dozens of your post and really take to heart your story\input. It is so awesome to have people as yourselves to learn from...I can really relate to your story. Thx for all your input to this site!!
 
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