Other androgens?

[muslhead]

Anyone use something other than Test for their HRT?
I am using 100mg/wk of test e and I cant stand the bloat. I guess I am overly sensitive to it but it is driving me crazy. No, I prefer not to take an AI or anything else. I am thinking about switching compounds instead to something that doesnt aromatize.

How about
50mg test e and 50 mg primo
100mg of primo.

Something other than all test and see if that will help.

Anyone doing anything besides test?

Thanks
MH

 

[mranak]

No, Primobolan is not appropraite for TRT.

Have you had follow-up blood tests to measure your hormones after using 100mg of testosterone enanthate? Are you self medicating or under the care of a practitioner?

 

[wrathe]

how about prop or a faster acting test they cause less bloat. also andriol? i am saying all this cause i am considering as well

 

[pmgamer18]

I was holding water and years ago my Dr. told me it was from being on TRT I have done shots, compound T, patchs, pellets and gels. The all made me hold water. So much that my feet felt like I was walking on balloons and I could not make a fist. So he put me on a water pill I took them 2 to 3 times a week. Then I found out about high E2 Estradiol and had it tested I was very high I took a .5 mg Arimidex everyday for a month and got my E2 down to normal. After about 4 months later I was able to stop the water pills and I hold no more water.
Phil

 

[muslhead]

mranak - Please provided some support for your comment that primo is not appropriate for HRT.

Gamer - I am pretty confident that it is E2 but as mentioned, I would prefer not to have to take ONE MORE THING as it becomes a never ending battle. Next I will have to take something because I am taking an AntiE. I would prefer to not add something else to the regimine so that was the reason for thinking of using something that wont aromatize.


Wrathe - Its test for me regardless of the ester. I have ever ester available and I react the same to each

I am self medicating but was initially under the guidance of SWALE and would continue if he was still available.

MH

 

[wrathe]

why is swale unavilaible? u react the same as me red-face? and if so it is all all doeses hi and low?....did swale have any comment about it to you/ thx

 

[muslhead]

why is swale unavilaible? u react the same as me red-face? and if so it is all all doeses hi and low?....did swale have any comment about it to you/ thx

I dont know if SWALE is actually is unavailable or not. I read that he was dropping all clients via the internet so I assumed rightly or not.
I have low T (last test was 220) and when I went to him he gave me guidance and I purchased what I needed to start my HRT. My life was crazy right afterwards and never started the agreed to protocol. Things are now back to normal just recently but I read he was no longer working with internet based clients.

Yah I get red faced but not too bad. My biggest problem is that my waist expands a size during the bloat periods which makes me not hungary and I lose weight. A bad vicious cycle. I am trying to rachet back on the dose but it is not helping. I still think the answer is nonaromatizable gear

MH

 

[cpeil2]

Wrathe;

I have experienced flushing and a lot of other bothersome symptoms with every TRT approach I have tried. Transdermal, HCG, and both SQ and IM injections of cyp. Although I have only tried cyp, I don't think switching esters is going to make a bit of difference. My symptoms were their worst when using large doses of hCG (2500 to 5000 IU). hCG is not T, however it stimulates your testes to produce T, lots of it. And all that T aromatizes to lots of E. I suppose it is possible, but I refuse to believe I have a hypersensitivity to my own hormone. In my case, I'm guessing that the mischief is caused by one of the T conversion products, either too much DHT or, most likely, too much E. Of course, without testing to back it up, all of this is just theory. Later in the summer, I will give TRT one last go, informed by very frequent testing.