I hope @Dr JIM may contribute to this thread. Anyone with a qualified opinion is welcome, but I raise some questions that are prompted by some of Jim's contributions here in the past. I am sure much of this has been discussed in the past in one form or another, but despite a lot of reading, I've not come across it, and I avoid bro-lore like you'd avoid a leper colony and prefer input from those engaged in medicine or related fields.
I am sure Doc Scally can answer as well, but Jim seems more engaged in the forum one-on-one these times. But like I said, anyone with qualified input is more than welcome.
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Jim, you've stated that "younger guys" (late 20s, early 30s) seem to recover a great deal faster HPTA-wise than guys older than that. So, if a guy is in his late 20s, what is he to do, assuming he plans to continue to use AAS (in a time on = time off manner, roughly speaking) for "many" years to come, and assuming he is not categorically opposed to HRT due to aging.
Now, I understand one would cycle AAS/PCT until age 35 and then HR/AAST B&C after the fact...being 35 with a damaged HPTA OR simply anticipating that the HPTA won't recover fully from supraphys. AAS use either..but I am asking from the perspective of being late 20s...not at 35 yet.
Assuming he will use AAS from late 20s and onwards to when he's 35+ as well, is HRT and thus blasting and cruising (LEGITIMATE cruising, as in actual HRT-levels) a foregone conclusion, given the (accumulated) damage to the HPTA that that many AAS cycles will cause, and given that the HPTA will have a much tougher time recovering at age 35?
Because is that's the case...and if one plans well ahead... why not just bite the B&C (with HRT levels for cruising) bullet in the late 20s, rather than go through PCT after PCT after PCT if HRT at 35+ is the logical conclusion anyways, if this person either
- has no objections to being on HRT or
- knows he will use supraphyioslogical AAS-doses at age 35+?
I am aware of the most obvious pros and cons (I think!). Fertility being one issue. But then again, if kids aren't a priority, then fertility is less of an issue. It just seems that blasting and HRT-level cruising from the get-go may be a hell of a lot less trouble and anguishing PCT (clomid, anyone?), not to mention that PCT-meds tax one's health as well.
Cliff's - Why not just blast and (legitimately) cruise from late 20s and onwards if one plans to use AAS at age 35+ as well, and assuming that that many AAS cycles is bound to cause some HPTA damage (IF that is the case!)
I hope you guys, Jim and others, will contribute.
I am sure Doc Scally can answer as well, but Jim seems more engaged in the forum one-on-one these times. But like I said, anyone with qualified input is more than welcome.
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Jim, you've stated that "younger guys" (late 20s, early 30s) seem to recover a great deal faster HPTA-wise than guys older than that. So, if a guy is in his late 20s, what is he to do, assuming he plans to continue to use AAS (in a time on = time off manner, roughly speaking) for "many" years to come, and assuming he is not categorically opposed to HRT due to aging.
Now, I understand one would cycle AAS/PCT until age 35 and then HR/AAST B&C after the fact...being 35 with a damaged HPTA OR simply anticipating that the HPTA won't recover fully from supraphys. AAS use either..but I am asking from the perspective of being late 20s...not at 35 yet.
Assuming he will use AAS from late 20s and onwards to when he's 35+ as well, is HRT and thus blasting and cruising (LEGITIMATE cruising, as in actual HRT-levels) a foregone conclusion, given the (accumulated) damage to the HPTA that that many AAS cycles will cause, and given that the HPTA will have a much tougher time recovering at age 35?
Because is that's the case...and if one plans well ahead... why not just bite the B&C (with HRT levels for cruising) bullet in the late 20s, rather than go through PCT after PCT after PCT if HRT at 35+ is the logical conclusion anyways, if this person either
- has no objections to being on HRT or
- knows he will use supraphyioslogical AAS-doses at age 35+?
I am aware of the most obvious pros and cons (I think!). Fertility being one issue. But then again, if kids aren't a priority, then fertility is less of an issue. It just seems that blasting and HRT-level cruising from the get-go may be a hell of a lot less trouble and anguishing PCT (clomid, anyone?), not to mention that PCT-meds tax one's health as well.
Cliff's - Why not just blast and (legitimately) cruise from late 20s and onwards if one plans to use AAS at age 35+ as well, and assuming that that many AAS cycles is bound to cause some HPTA damage (IF that is the case!)
I hope you guys, Jim and others, will contribute.
