PCOM Test P - Bloodwork Results

There are studies that show % reduction in E2 levels which I can def post for you but none that say "take X dose of adex and get Y levels of E2"....especially if you add AAS into the mix.

Generally speaking, adex will act the fastest and will level your E2 off according to the dose in a few days. Letro acts pretty quick as well but takes longer to get to steady state. Aromasin will take a bit longer to reach consistent E2 drop although you'll see initial drops relatively quickly.

If you don't mind @Docd187123, can you post? at least it'll give me a relative sense and additional understanding.

Also didn't realize Adex works that fast - considering that my E2 is 3x the normal range would taking 1mg tab EOD be too aggressive at trying to lowering the number down? I plan to take blood again in 2 weeks just to get a sense of how much of an impact adex has in lowering E2 levels.
 
Your posts in here suggest otherwise.

99.9% of Meso threads suffer the same fate. You've cluttered threads yourself. You've decided now is the time to don your white knight suit?

As a further aside, I would hazard a guess that he really doesn't care about the "clutter".

Just the contrary, I'm being cordial. You on the other....your trying to pick a fight. Don't you have anything better to do?

Wrong again, at some point, a wise person will see the futility in attempting to care on a discussion with drywall.

And now you speak for people. Ain't you the authority.
 
Just the contrary, I'm being cordial. You on the other....your trying to pick a fight. Don't you have anything better to do?

I'm doing a #2 while responding to you. I guess I could masterbate furiously or open the door to the bathroom to spread the peace and love. Not much going on now besides correcting you.

You're being cordial? I guess cordial is calling someone a disrespectful piece of shit, delusional, and saying they pull studies out of their ass. That one is new to me. I'll try that cordiality with you in the future :)

Wrong again, at some point, a wise person will see the futility in attempting to care on a discussion with drywall.

A drywall that was able to provide some objective evidence to back up its claim vs a complete and utter idiot who has yet been able to accomplish anything remotely similar. I take drywall....

And now you speak for people. Ain't you the authority.

Considering the fact he liked a post of mine and has now decided to ask questions and engage in constructive dialogue, much unlike yourself, I would say I'm just better at reading the signs but I'll take authority too. Thanks.

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The moral of this story is not to be butthurt when somebody calls you on your bullshit but rather look at it as a learning experience. You'll be a much more productive member for it.
 
If you don't mind @Docd187123, can you post? at least it'll give me a relative sense and additional understanding.

Also didn't realize Adex works that fast - considering that my E2 is 3x the normal range would taking 1mg tab EOD be too aggressive at trying to lowering the number down? I plan to take blood again in 2 weeks just to get a sense of how much of an impact adex has in lowering E2 levels.

I personally would not use an AI unless some significant symptoms become apparent. I've let my E2 levels go higher than that without using an AI. But here's the info anyway.



Aromatase inhibitors
Aromatase inhibitors are classified as either steroidal or nonsteroidal, or as first, second or third generation. Steroidal inhibitors such as formestane and exemestane inhibit aromatase activity by mimicking the substrate androstenedione. Nonsteroidal enzyme inhibitors such as anastrozole and letrozole inhibit enzyme activity by binding with the heme iron of the enzyme. First-generation aromatase inhibitors such as aminoglutethimide are relatively weak and nonspecific; they can also block other steroidogenic enzymes necessitating adrenal steroid supplementation. Third-generation inhibitors such as letrozole and anastrozole are potent and do not inhibit related enzymes. They are well tolerated and apart from their effects on estrogen metabolism their use does not appear to be associated with important side effects in postmenopausal women [27]. Although aromatase inhibition by anastrozole and letrozole is reported to be close to 100%, administration of these inhibitors to men will not suppress plasma estradiol levels completely. In men third-generation aromatase inhibitors will decrease the mean plasma estradiol/testosterone ratio by 77% [28,29]. This finding probably relates to the high plasma concentrations of testosterone, a major precursor for estradiol synthesis in adult men. As aromatase inhibition is dose dependent it has been suggested that aromatase is less suppressed in the testis compared to adipose and muscle tissue, explaining the incomplete efficacy of aromatase inhibition in men. Aromatase activity is high in the testes and the molar ratio of testosterone to letrozole is much higher in the testes compared with adipose and muscle tissue. When testicular testosterone and estradiol synthesis are suppressed and testosterone is administered exogenously in combination with letrozole, however, the estradiol/testosterone ratio is suppressed by 81% [30], which is only marginally different from the suppression of this ratio in intact men after treatment with letrozole. This incomplete suppression may be regarded as advantageous for it prevents excessive reduction of estrogen levels in men and the possible associated adverse effects. In postmenopausal women with breast carcinoma, long-term use of potent aromatase inhibitors reduces circulating estradiol levels by 88% [31] and is associated with adverse effects on bone [2,3]. Due to the much higher estrogen levels in treated men it remains to be determined whether this also holds true for men.

Aromatase inhibitors in men: effects and therapeutic options
 
Thanks @Docd187123. I don't have any sides, just want to lower it so that it's close to normal ranges. It'd be interesting to really see how fast my E2 drops on .5 - 1 mg EOD for 2 weeks.

I was also under the impression that high E2's does eventually lead to issues - so more of a preventive measure then anything else.
 
Thanks @Docd187123. I don't have any sides, just want to lower it so that it's close to normal ranges. It'd be interesting to really see how fast my E2 drops on .5 - 1 mg EOD for 2 weeks.

I was also under the impression that high E2's does eventually lead to issues - so more of a preventive measure then anything else.

What issues does high E2 lead to?
 
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