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Another good article about MENT. The reduced bone mass means total estradiol + 7⍺-methylestradiol was insufficient. Adding a very little bit of test or using slightly more MENT would have fixed this.



As an androgen, MENT is about 10x potency of testosterone. That's why the dose should be escalated slowly. Going from 5mg > 25mg/day MENT is equivalent of 350mg > 1750mg test per week!

As an estrogen, 1mg MENT is equivalent to about 2mg of test, when you factor in the rate of aromatization (23% of test), the binding affinity (102% of estradiol, ER transactivation (4x test in a study with estrogen-resistant T47Dco breast CA cells), and resistance of binding to SHBG (the 7⍺-methylestradiol is 100% free, just like the androgen). So 10mg/day MENT will give estrogenicity of about 140mg/wk test. Plus whatever estradiol is made via natural + endogenous testosterone, HCG, etc.

You can see how people get in trouble easily with MENT by getting a vial and dosing it like other AAS ~ 50mg/day. That's going to give the estrogen of about 700mg/wk test, which is AI territory for most people.

On another note, I started OEP's EQ @ 30mg/day on Sept 1. I usually have to dose 12.5mg aromasin 1-2x per week. I know EQ takes a very long time to build up, but I haven't needed aromasin for 9 days now. Unlike primo EQ might actually have a strong AI effect in me... which means it will pair perfectly with MENT. I've only found one other guy (on reddit) who did a MENT + EQ cruise, and apparently it was very successful. I guess I'll be patient #2.

Also added a 15mg/day DHB Sept 1, and my strength has already increased signficantly after being at a plateau for a while. It might be the best compound ever for strength.

Replacing 30mg/day primo with 30mg/day EQ and 15mg/day DHB seems to be a huge win so far. I've run primo several times now and have been less than impressed with it.
I ran a test/ment/EQ cycle over a year ago. It has been hands down my favorite. Trest cyp is where it is at. With Ment, I think it is best to pin twice a day because of not binding to shgb, as you pointed out. Or I should say that is what is best for me, I have a high clearance rate.
 
I use low dose tren long term. My strength increased noticeably after a few day of DHB when I replaced the primo with DHB/EQ.

I will get blood work after a month and check hs-CRP and GGT too. Usually I can feel when I have systemic inflammation, so far I feel great... have only run DHB once before and d/c'd it after a few weeks because it was leaving big welts. The DHB I have now, from a different source, does not.

At least in me, primo is very attenuated androgen. The c1 methylation probably reduces its activity with the AR, it was in fact added for oral bioavailability just like Proviron. DHB doesn't have it and seems to hit the AR with full strength. Primo also has a lot of 3⍺-hydroxylated metabolites meaning it only has partial resistance to 3⍺-HSD, better than DHT but inferior to masteron and DHB, and other DHT 'derivatives'.

Wish I could find stenbolone, it's the c2-methylated version of DHB (as masteron is to DHT). That C2 methylation is specifically for blocking 3⍺-HSD metabolism making it more anabolic in muscle. Alas I've been told raws haven't been available for decades. Maybe I should invest in some lab equipment and start making shit!
Interested in seeing that bloodwork on DHB.

All things considered, I think I’m going to start relying on just testosterone. DHB and Ment have too many obscure things to keep in mind. And there still isn’t a well established consensus in the community that they’re worthy of using regularly vs mast or primo. I don’t even use mast or primo much anymore since just upping the testosterone and getting the same results.

Lately this test, EQ and low dose ment has been alright. Better than alright before I added the ment, I’m getting edema and water retention that I usually don’t have on test only. No dietary changes. My electrolyte and water intake is the same. Stress, sleep etc no major factor other than ment. Test + EQ was giving me pretty good results, the same as just test but with less estrogen albeit consistently the same range 20-30pg. No decrease in dryness or fullness compared to test. But the ment is complicating things and unfortunately I can’t test for the 7a estradiol. The estrogen is just that potent even on 5mg and 700EQ. If I didn’t have my glands cut my nipples would be screaming from this stuff.
 
PCT 24X7 told me yesterday to add 20% to the price of the drugs purchased from them to cover tariffs.


Got the same info on an order I was going to place. Holding off for one of their 15% discount periods so the total increase might only be 5% :) . It may happen, it may not, but I really don't need anything right now.
 
Out of curiosity I went to take a look at the declared value of my uae boxes. I've got 3 boxes with a thousand tabs each which were declared below 15 bucks each lol. :cool:
 
Got the same info on an order I was going to place. Holding off for one of their 15% discount periods so the total increase might only be 5% :) . It may happen, it may not, but I really don't need anything right now.
Good thinking. I made my order because I'd like to order to arrive somewhat soon. But in the future, I'll keep a look out for 15% off specials.
 
Out of curiosity I went to take a look at the declared value of my uae boxes. I've got 3 boxes with a thousand tabs each which were declared below 15 bucks each lol. :cool:

I wonder how they're going to declare the costs of shipments with the end of deminimus. I hear the fines are going to be pretty bad if they get caught. Interesting times.
 
Dude, seriously you need to chill out. Have nothing against you, but you have a tendency to go off on rants and get yourself banned more than once now.
He doesn't know how to chill. He always thinks he's the most important guy in whatever room he's currently occupying.
 
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He doesn't know how to chill.

Are you back on Tren, or is the sciatica keeping you up and in your usual chill mood?


Is the massive amount of disgusting food you're shoving in your gullet every day because of a lack of self-control causing you to have mental issues?

You can't stand any criticism. You're a sensitive little bitch and you'll be fat til you die because you refuse to self reflect and realize it's not just your body that is the problem but your mind is fucked.

Like I said, make sure to log your progress so I can watch you fail.

Nobody's reading your stupid fucking novels.

Shut your mouth and get off your fat ass and put your plan in motion. Maybe you'll be too busy to shove 6000 calories in your mouth every day.

You were wrong, so your facts are bullshit and you also have a weird obsession with how other men inject themselves. Suck more cocks.

Suck a dick - your fat ass still hasnt started losing weight over a month after posting here. Youre a joke.

Nothing is ever your fault! You're just magically a fat fuck who will be dead in 10 years. You're also the nicest guy but everyone just keeps picking on you! Life is oh so hard.

How does his cock taste?

BTW, went ahead and popped you on ignore. At least @readalot is intelligent. You're just a cheerleading cuck with nothing of value to offer to anyone.
 
I'm on bemp.
I do a full ab ultrasound as part of my annual checkup, so far no stones.
My uric acid is low tho (below baseline), i think it has something to do with the glps.
My uric acid was low (2.3) on my last set of labs. Last time I was on reta it was in range , I just looked up low uric acid and you’re the only person I’ve seen mention it on meso so I’m just wondering if this is something to be concerned about.
 
My uric acid was low (2.3) on my last set of labs. Last time I was on reta it was in range , I just looked up low uric acid and you’re the only person I’ve seen mention it on meso so I’m just wondering if this is something to be concerned about.

I have no idea either. I just ignored it lol. From what I've searched it didn't seem to be anything of concern
 
I've used both. They're equally good. Get the right dose, both are messy splitters. Tadalista has a slightly nicer box.

If there's one med India knows how to make better than anyone, it's dick pills, lol. They produce most of the world's supply. Something like ten million a day.
Thanks. I had the same question.
 
If your doc will prescribe it (good luck, most never heard of it), and you're over 40, insurance pays 100% (they're required by law to do that for statins for over 40's, oddly).
You might be right. I didn't believe you. Then I looked up my insurance records. My health insurance hasn't charged me for atorvastatin (Lipitor). I am currently having a liver problems and the hepatologist believes the atorvastatin is the most likely cause. Don't avoid it because of me - that is considered a rare side effect.

This is the AI response to whether insurance has to pay for statins:

Under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), certain health plans are required to cover generic statin medications at no cost to the patient, but only for eligible individuals using the drug for preventive purposes. The coverage is not universal, and the specific rules have been impacted by recent court challenges.
Who is eligible for full statin coverage
Private health insurance plans must cover generic statins with no cost-sharing for a specific group of patients, as defined by the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF):
  • Age range: Adults between 40 and 75 years old.
  • Risk factors: Patients must have one or more cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk factors, such as dyslipidemia, diabetes, hypertension, or smoking.
  • Heart disease risk: The patient's estimated 10-year risk of a cardiovascular event must be 10% or greater.
  • Primary prevention: The prescription must be for primary prevention—meaning the patient has not already experienced a cardiovascular event.
Insurance plans required to provide full coverage
The full coverage requirement applies to most non-grandfathered private health insurance plans, including those in the individual, small group, and large group markets.
Exceptions include:
  • Grandfathered plans: These are plans that existed before the ACA was passed in 2010 and have maintained their status. These plans are not subject to the preventive care mandate.
  • Medicare and some Medicaid plans: While these government programs cover statins, their coverage rules are different. For example, Medicare may cover most recommended preventive services with no cost, but not all of the ACA requirements for private plans.
Important caveats
  • Generic vs. brand name: The zero-cost coverage applies only to generic statins. If a patient requires a brand-name statin, a copayment or other cost-sharing will likely apply.
  • For treatment, not prevention: If a patient is prescribed a statin to treat existing cardiovascular disease rather than prevent it, the zero-cost provision does not apply. In this case, the medication is subject to the plan's standard drug coverage rules, including any copayments or deductibles.
  • Supreme Court challenges: While the Supreme Court recently upheld the core of the ACA's preventive care mandate, the ongoing legal challenge in Braidwood Management Inc. v. Becerra has created some uncertainty. In June 2024, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against the mandate for a small group of plaintiffs but limited its ruling, requiring health plans to continue providing free preventive care for now. The ultimate outcome of this case is still pending before the Supreme Court.
 

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