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[adrenalytic]

Trio is stronger but some people don't like taking diuretics.
Telmisartan 40mg + Cilnidipine 10 mg + Chlorthalidone 6.25mg
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Thanks bro.

I just ordered a whole lot of that ^. I wouldn't worry too much about the 6.25 chlorthalidone. That is a very low dose and IMO at that low dose for most it will be a benefit.

So you don't think I'll need to supplement potassium or increase electrolytes while on it? I actually wouldn't mind being a little less bloated but not at the cost of having to worry about cramps and such.

 

[BP_6]

Thanks bro.



So you don't think I'll need to supplement potassium or increase electrolytes while on it? I actually wouldn't mind being a little less bloated but not at the cost of having to worry about cramps and such.

I think you will be just fine. I don't even think you will need potassium. Reason being is the telmisartan actually increases blood potassium levels as do most ARB's. That is why they don't recommend taking potassium sparing diuretics with ARB's. Luckily Chlor is not a potassium sparing diuretic. Plus 6.25 is about as low a dose as it gets. 12.5 is even considered a low dose. 25 isn't even really considered a high dose. It goes up to 50 and even 100. Although I know of no one that ever needed that much for BP.

In the USA at least, it doesn't even come at that low of a dose. It combined with a BP med the lowest dose is usually 12.5, going up to 25. Alone, it is 25-50 usually.

In other words, you should be just fine unless you have some extreme sensitivity.

 

[adrenalytic]

I think you will be just fine. I don't even think you will need potassium. Reason being is the telmisartan actually increases blood potassium levels as do most ARB's. That is why they don't recommend taking potassium sparing diuretics with ARB's. Luckily Chlor is not a potassium sparing diuretic. Plus 6.25 is about as low a dose as it gets. 12.5 is even considered a low dose. 25 isn't even really considered a high dose. It goes up to 50 and even 100. Although I know of no one that ever needed that much for BP.

In the USA at least, it doesn't even come at that low of a dose. It combined with a BP med the lowest dose is usually 12.5, going up to 25. Alone, it is 25-50 usually.

In other words, you should be just fine unless you have some extreme sensitivity.

Thanks man. Gonna grab a few cycles worth. Daily dosing right?

 

[BP_6]

Thanks man. Gonna grab a few cycles worth. Daily dosing right?

I take mine just before bed. I used to do it earlier in the day, but after reading a bit, there is some slight evidence that nighttime dosing is a bit better for overall reduction in events. Although anytime that is convenient should work just fine.

 

[nullandvoid]

I love the Cilnidipine and Telmisartan combo. Best BP meds I've ever been on. Add to that the Telmisartan had the unexpected bonus of reducing my hematocrit... significantly.

 

[BP_6]

I love the Cilnidipine and Telmisartan combo. Best BP meds I've ever been on. Add to that the Telmisartan had the unexpected bonus of reducing my hematocrit... significantly.

You too? Happened to me as well and took me a while to figure out the cause. My doctor was like, wow, your hematocrit is now in the normal range.

 

[nullandvoid]

You too? Happened to me as well and took me a while to figure out the cause. My doctor was like, wow, your hematocrit is now in the normal range.

Yes! I actually went to donate because I was due. They tested my hemoglobin, and it was like 16. I asked "what?" because it's normally 18+. I ended up just not donating. I'm getting a CBC tomorrow to confirm.

 

[BP_6]

Yes! I actually went to donate because I was due. They tested my hemoglobin, and it was like 16. I asked "what?" because it's normally 18+. I ended up just not donating. I'm getting a CBC tomorrow to confirm.

I would like to add that after testing out Edarbi "azilsartan" due to it being the strongest ARB for a while. I went back to Telmisartan.

Why? Well being the "strongest" ARB I thought it would be better. It was for sure stronger. However for me, and after reading more I have seen this problem with others as well it is too strong an ARB. Even at 40mg combined with the other meds it would lower my BP too much and I noticed my RHR rate increasing, dizzy when getting up too fast and it happened frequently. The Teli didn't do that even at 80mg. Sometimes I would check my BP and it would be at like 90/60 which doesn't work too well for me. With the tri combo, it keeps it right at about 110-130/70/80 max which for me is the sweet spot for how I am feeling. If I feel I need more control, I can add a 1/2 a tab of my stand alone Teli and take it up to 80mg but haven't needed to do that now that my weight is down more.

I am sure if you have really high BP and need max lowering above all else, edarbi would be the choice. However for me with much experimenting, it was too strong and I feel a lot better on Teli.

 

[a1b2c3]

I love the Cilnidipine and Telmisartan combo. Best BP meds I've ever been on. Add to that the Telmisartan had the unexpected bonus of reducing my hematocrit... significantly.

Still new on here and can't give you a like, but thank you for mentioning this. I had no idea, and this is rather important info, since mine was on the higher side recently.

 

[nullandvoid]

Still new on here and can't give you a like, but thank you for mentioning this. I had no idea, and this is rather important info, since mine was on the higher side recently.

Appreciate it. I can't take credit. That all goes to @Ghoul and @Wizbang . I'm on 80mg of the Telmisartan and 10mg of the Cilnidipine once a day, and it controls BP better than anything I've been on. Plus the aforementioned benefit to hematocrit, which is huge for me. I've had to dump blood for years, walking that line of bad blood markers, even anemia one time, and iron supplmentation (and all the bullshit timing issues with it.. like avoiding it with calcium or coffee). From what I've researched, it hits the cause of the increased hematocrit from AAS at the root, and it bottoms out, so it stops decreasing. I'm not sure why this isn't mentioned more often, because most who are on AAS could use some BP buffering anyway. More often than not, people start talking about Naringin, Nattokinase, or something else that doesn't do shit.

 

[bigforyouben]

UAE packages take a while to get moving and initially processed, but once they do they are fast.

That has not always been experience, even for packs that make it through.

 

[PrimoKerby]

Ordered Dec 15
Received tracking Dec 18
Delivered January 5

 

[newguy2]

Anyone know if this source can get
Trazadone? Didn't see it in the list.

 

[BP_6]

It is on the list.

Anyone know if this source can get
Trazadone? Didn't see it in the list.

 

[Raww]

Anyone know if this source can get
Trazadone? Didn't see it in the list.

Starting at 1905 on the list

 

[Bwhistle]

Dare I say 2 at regional facilities. We might have some winners here boys.

 

[Jonboy]

What does he carry that would help with loosing hair? Actually not for me but for my wife. And she doesn’t use any anabolics if that matters.

 

[bananafeet]

What does he carry that would help with loosing hair? Actually not for me but for my wife. And she doesn’t use any anabolics if that matters.

Get her thyroid, iron and blood chemistry checked.

Usually hairloss in women is not from androgens but other metabolic factors.

You could try topical minoxidil or ketoconazole shampoo. Keep in mind women tolerate lower percentage of minoxidil than men.

 

[Raww]

Get her thyroid, iron and blood chemistry checked.

Usually hairloss in women is not from androgens but other metabolic factors.

You could try topical minoxidil or ketoconazole shampoo. Keep in mind women tolerate lower percentage of minoxidil than men.

Hormone panel too.

If she's on a GLP1 that could be a cause as well.

 

[bananafeet]

Hormone panel too.

If she's on a GLP1 that could be a cause as well.

Definitely for shedding. But more permanent hairloss is likely to be something else. The hair cycle can be interrupted by stress causing it to fall out. I'm not an expert in this area. Shits so complicated