You technically could but if your e2 is in order I dont see a point. Nolva and Clomid would work better. Use aromasin during cycle at 6.25-12.5 a day but only when needed. Bloods will give you a more precise answer to this question.
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You technically could but if your e2 is in order I dont see a point. Nolva and Clomid would work better. Use aromasin during cycle at 6.25-12.5 a day but only when needed. Bloods will give you a more precise answer to this question.
Big Boss
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I do another blood work 6-8 weeks after my pct to see everything is ok
Big Boss
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what supplements do u recommend at this time to recovery faster?
I think with these supplements we can recover much faster
1.zma
2. D-Aspartic Acid
3.Zinc
4.Magnesium Aspartate
5.Tribulus Terrestris
6.For the reduction of cortisol, compounds that can be used are Glutamine, Vitamin C
7.Creatine and beta-alanine supplements are good for increasing bodily strength
8.To restore the health of the athlete, substances like Milk Thistle and N-Acetyl Cysteine can be used
9.increase in production of testosterone, is Vitamin D or Cholecalciferol
10.chromium for reduction of cortisol
I think with these supplements we can recover much faster
1.zma
2. D-Aspartic Acid
3.Zinc
4.Magnesium Aspartate
5.Tribulus Terrestris
6.For the reduction of cortisol, compounds that can be used are Glutamine, Vitamin C
7.Creatine and beta-alanine supplements are good for increasing bodily strength
8.To restore the health of the athlete, substances like Milk Thistle and N-Acetyl Cysteine can be used
9.increase in production of testosterone, is Vitamin D or Cholecalciferol
10.chromium for reduction of cortisol
Good list. I would add a multi vitamin, vitamin d3, and milk thistle to the list.
I love ZMA, I take it every night.
master.on
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Beware of @SuperMaroid he is a well known Naps shill and scammer
He even has a whole thread solely dedicated to him
@superMaroid NAPS REP/SCAMMER
You may also want to Google posts about Naps scamming, and sending burnt oil, telling customers it's ok go ahead and inject it (in total disregard for customers health).
There are 2 thing that shutdown after a cycle
1 Testis stop making Testosterone
2 The pituitary gland stops making LH and FSH
The first one is the hardest to recover, HCG+AI is needed
The second one is the easiest to recover, studies never proven it can be permanently shutdown.
While Clomid can boost LH/FSH, atrophied testis need stronger (chemical) signals that only injected HCG can provide.
It may be hard to get the pituitary to make the copious amounts of LH/FSH testis need to recover testis function.
Lol ^^ A lot of people think I'm a "shill" or "scammer" because I support Naps. But in this case @master.on I'm helping someone with a PCT. This has nothing to do with Naps so your making a fool out of yourself and going on rants again.
Might as well start taking 300mg of anadrol and 5g of test. You seriously crack me up bro.
If you guys want a good laugh check the Steroid News Forum he makes a new topic in there everyday and goes on rants and usually no one responds but he continues to make them.
I'm sorry @master.on but you give horrible advice to the community, and these rants are getting ridiculous. Have fun trying to pull up old quotes
Might as well start taking 300mg of anadrol and 5g of test. You seriously crack me up bro.
If you guys want a good laugh check the Steroid News Forum he makes a new topic in there everyday and goes on rants and usually no one responds but he continues to make them.
I'm sorry @master.on but you give horrible advice to the community, and these rants are getting ridiculous. Have fun trying to pull up old quotes
GianT_SlayeR
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People recommend not using AI on PCT as it effects your estrogen and testosterone levels. Purpose of pct is to go back to normal. An AI would be counter productive
Wood4days
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You're only doing a test only cycle. You don't need a 6 weeks PCT. You are over paranoid
Wood4days
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You should always take both nolva and clomid. Not just Nolva.
Wood4days
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Agreed. It's just a test cycle. That PCT should be fine.
Wood4days
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Why don't you do some research instead of getting spooned fed.
Or you can take aromasin with PCT and let us know how that goes [emoji48] [emoji83] [emoji88] [emoji85]
Ya, I was thinking the same thing
Wood4days
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Holy shit bruh.
Why don't you just ask someone to draw a complete cycle with pct and nutrition facts, and throw in macros counting for your diet while you're at it.
Or maybe ask someone to just run the cycle for you.
Big Boss
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I haven't any problem with my diet and supplements and my cycle ... i just want to know another opinions .... i did ton of research before doing my first cycle @ 31 and my body was in shape before touch the steroids ....i'll learning something new every day .... i think is better to ask something u don't know before doing stupid things.... we speak about drugs and this isn't joke
master.on
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Not to discourage you but scientific studies show supplements won't do anything
Here's for Tribulus Terrestris
The effect of five weeks of Tribulus terrestris supplementation on muscle strength and body composition during preseason training in elite rugby league players.
Rogerson S1, Riches CJ, Jennings C, Weatherby RP, Meir RA, Marshall-Gradisnik SM.
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Tribulus terrestris is an herbal nutritional supplement that is promoted to produce large gains in strength and lean muscle mass in 5-28 days (15, 18). Although some manufacturers claim T. terrestris will not lead to a positive drug test, others have suggested that T. terrestris may increase the urinary testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio, which may place athletes at risk of a positive drug test. The purpose of the study was to determine the effect of T. terrestris on strength, fat free mass, and the urinary T/E ratio during 5 weeks of preseason training in elite rugby league players. Twenty-two Australian elite male rugby league players (mean +/- SD; age = 19.8 +/- 2.9 years; weight = 88.0 +/- 9.5 kg) were match-paired and randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to either a T. terrestris (n = 11) or placebo (n = 11) group. All subjects performed structured heavy resistance training as part of the club's preseason preparations. A T. terrestris extract (450 mg.d(-1)) or placebo capsules were consumed once daily for 5 weeks. Muscular strength, body composition, and the urinary T/E ratio were monitored prior to and after supplementation. After 5 weeks of training, strength and fat free mass increased significantly without any between-group differences. No between-group differences were noted in the urinary T/E ratio. It was concluded that T. terrestris did not produce the large gains in strength or lean muscle mass that many manufacturers claim can be experienced within 5-28 days. Furthermore, T. terrestris did not alter the urinary T/E ratio and would not place an athlete at risk of testing positive based on the World Anti-Doping Agency's urinary T/E ratio limit of 4:1.
PMID:17530942 DOI: https://doi.org/10.1519/R-18395.1
The effect of five weeks of Tribulus terrestris supplementation on muscle strength and body composition during preseason training in elite rugby le... - PubMed - NCBI
The aphrodisiac herb Tribulus terrestris does not influence the androgen production in young men.
Neychev VK1, Mitev VI.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
The aim of the current study is to investigate the influence of Tribulus terrestris extract on androgen metabolism in young males.
DESIGN AND METHODS:
Twenty-one healthy young 20-36 years old men with body weight ranging from 60 to 125 kg were randomly separated into three groups-two experimental (each n=7) and a control (placebo) one (n=7). The experimental groups were named TT1 and TT2 and the subjects were assigned to consume 20 and 10 mg/kg body weight per day of Tribulus terrestris extract, respectively, separated into three daily intakes for 4 weeks. Testosterone, androstenedione and luteinizing hormone levels in the serum were measured 24 h before supplementation (clear probe), and at 24, 72, 240, 408 and 576 h from the beginning of the supplementation.
RESULTS:
There was no significant difference between Tribulus terrestris supplemented groups and controls in the serum testosterone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 15.75+/-1.75 nmol/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 16.32+/-1.57 nmol/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 17.74+/-1.09 nmol/l) (p>0.05)), androstenedione (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 1.927+/-0.126 ng/ml); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 2.026+/-0.256 ng/ml); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 1.952+/-0.236 ng/ml) (p>0.05)) or luteinizing hormone (TT1 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.662+/-0.274U/l); TT2 (mean+/-S.D.: 4.103+/-0.869U/l); controls (mean+/-S.D.: 4.170+/-0.406U/l) (p>0.05)) levels. All results were within the normal range. The findings in the current study anticipate that Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins possess neither direct nor indirect androgen-increasing properties. The study will be extended in the clarifying the probable mode of action of Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins.
PMID: 15994038 DOI: 10.1016/j.jep.2005.05.017
The aphrodisiac herb Tribulus terrestris does not influence the androgen production in young men. - PubMed - NCBI
Yup @master.on is on a roll lolHere we go with another rant
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