Peptides: Same Side Effects As Gh With Ltm Use?

[jbold001]

Hey all, I've been reading EVERYTHING on these boards for the past few days, but I am rather new to the AAS game. I'm 25. I have been doing lots of research on cycles, androgens, pct, peptides, even pro-hormones; and I understand that long term use of GH will lead to EVERYTHING growing, including certain bones and certain organs like intestines which accounts for the nasty bloated stomach look on many bodybuilders. These risks far outweigh the benefits in my opinion, which is why I want to stay clear from GH. I do realize that this comes from years and years of GH use. From what I have read GH leads to increased levels of IGF-1 which is where the benefits from GH come from. My question though is if peptide use, which elevates GH and IGF-1, can/will lead to similar side effects as GH use in the long term.
Also, is the high popularity with peptides just bc they are legal to purchase and the quality of products are more transparent than GH coming from say undergroudn labs/international sources? Otherwise, real GH would be more effective than peptides?
Thanks!

 

[hotdog23]

I'm not saying it doesn't BUT I have yet to see a study where IGF-1 was increased as a result of ghrp/ghrh administration... Height velocities increased in children yet IGF-1 levels remained the same as baseline during 6 months of treatment... I've read several more on ghrp/ghrh, ipam, Hexarelin etc and none have lead to an increase in IGF-1. I don't understand why, when it is proven that supraphysiological levels of GH can be achieved with peptides

In my experience they are best for fat loss.

And yes, legality, purity, cost are all a factor in their popularity. But no they will not compare to the real deal

 

[graniteman]

Hey all, I've been reading EVERYTHING on these boards for the past few days, but I am rather new to the AAS game. I'm 25. I have been doing lots of research on cycles, androgens, pct, peptides, even pro-hormones; and I understand that long term use of GH will lead to EVERYTHING growing, including certain bones and certain organs like intestines which accounts for the nasty bloated stomach look on many bodybuilders. These risks far outweigh the benefits in my opinion, which is why I want to stay clear from GH. I do realize that this comes from years and years of GH use. From what I have read GH leads to increased levels of IGF-1 which is where the benefits from GH come from. My question though is if peptide use, which elevates GH and IGF-1, can/will lead to similar side effects as GH use in the long term.
Also, is the high popularity with peptides just bc they are legal to purchase and the quality of products are more transparent than GH coming from say undergroudn labs/international sources? Otherwise, real GH would be more effective than peptides?
Thanks!

The amounts of GH top level BB's use would stagger you. It also depends on the age when you begin using GH.
There are many benefits to using gh for anyone who lifts, especially older guys. Just the recovery\injury properties are worth it , alone. If you do run it many make the mistake of running it a month or two and expecting results. Run it a minimum of 6 months, diet and lift hard and you will be pleased.
It sounds like you're fairly new to aas so I would say stick to very basic low does cycles and diet and regime

 

[pmac928]

It also depends on what kind of doses of gh you are running. Plus your body gets accustomed to the peptides and they start to not work. I woul go no more then 6-8 weeks on a ghrp/Cjc combo then break for same amount of time.

 

[jbold001]

thanks guys, very insightful info. I really do appreciate it. I am planning on running a very basic test only cycle soon. I was curious about the peptides though, there's been a lot of buzz with them lately.

 

[biggerben69]

thanks guys, very insightful info. I really do appreciate it. I am planning on running a very basic test only cycle soon. I was curious about the peptides though, there's been a lot of buzz with them lately.

Where's all the excitement and "buzz" taking place? Oh..,,you're new? There's a buzz about that garbage when you log on to a site that's selling the shit.
Just like when u were invited to a friends friends home for a "business opportunity" and and you walk in and the 3 or 4 guys at the front of the room are glassy eyed and can't get over how wonderful the soap and other products they use on a daily basis have improved their quality of life ten fold.

 

[PJ2323]

Where's all the excitement and "buzz" taking place? Oh..,,you're new? There's a buzz about that garbage when you log on to a site that's selling the shit.
Just like when u were invited to a friends friends home for a "business opportunity" and and you walk in and the 3 or 4 guys at the front of the room are glassy eyed and can't get over how wonderful the soap and other products they use on a daily basis have improved their quality of life ten fold.

So are you saying peptides are a waste?

I'd agree with the "buzz" comment that was made. Not everyone is researching these things all the time. I stumbled upon peptides while searching for anything that could speed up and help recovery from surgeries. For me it was a wow moment because I had no clue any of these things were out there. Before reading up on them I only knew about running hgh or jumping on a cycle.
At the same time I agree that a lot of times when reading up it's the same information and on a lot of sites it just looks like people that are throwing out comments to get people interested and buying the products.

 

[GS44]

You know i thought the same thing.A peptide company told be they could prove the cjc Dac @ Mk677 taking at 10mg dac and 1ml mk677 @ BEDTIME will test igf levels 400-500 and that itself is 6iu of generic gh.
Was looking how much both of these for 12 weeks would cost and it was $800 ,so it better be (lol) The company said if i could test igf they would forget the amount owed.So good or not i am testing igf and my part is done.
We shall see.

 

[graniteman]

So are you saying peptides are a waste?

I'd agree with the "buzz" comment that was made. Not everyone is researching these things all the time. I stumbled upon peptides while searching for anything that could speed up and help recovery from surgeries. For me it was a wow moment because I had no clue any of these things were out there. Before reading up on them I only knew about running hgh or jumping on a cycle.
At the same time I agree that a lot of times when reading up it's the same information and on a lot of sites it just looks like people that are throwing out comments to get people interested and buying the products.

I'll say it, IMO RC peps are at best hit n miss which in my book means not worth it.

You want recovery run GH some say GHRP-6 with it helps but again you're relying on RC's. I've ran and am running gh for a injury and I know for a fact it speeds healing from persoanl experience.

If you can find legit IGF-1 \Lr3 I would stock pile that shit. Run that with GH & test, nothing better.
I don't put any stock in RC companies, if they do have good products they're too expensive.

 

[beefcurtains]

I'll say it, IMO RC peps are at best hit n miss which in my book means not worth it.

You want recovery run GH some say GHRP-6 with it helps but again you're relying on RC's. I've ran and am running gh for a injury and I know for a fact it speeds healing from persoanl experience.

If you can find legit IGF-1 \Lr3 I would stock pile that shit. Run that with GH & test, nothing better.
I don't put any stock in RC companies, if they do have good products they're too expensive.