Permanent insomnia - Need help

Even if one gets cancer, you'll never know what role GH did or didn't play in its development.

Heard one doc say the patients he's treated, that have used GH, and get cancer, are invariably convinced they did it to themselves and it's psychologically devastating.
 
Yes, some people see benefit from 2iu some see from 8 but some in 15+ say the can't stay asleep 30 minutes after injection and they wake up only when alarm hits, so my guess is more GH = more deep sleep. I remember Sector when he started with 4 IU said his sleep was much better and when he raised to 6 or 8 everything including sleep was even better.
The more GH I take before bed, the worse I sleep. I will wake up so much if I do that. Its really unfortunate. That's just my experience. Type-II has some stuff on GH sleep fragmentation; very individual. All of my GH is in one morning bolus due to this.
 
I take 2 iu before bed but to be honest I could take that in the am and feel fine. Melatonin 29 mg or Benadryl before bed. If that doesn’t work, thc gummies will put you right out and you’ll be in deep sleep all night long
 
you never mentioned your dosage of melotinin, for all we know you could have been using 3mg.
Doses much higher work better and I've read things about melatonin being an antioxidant.
you can even find it as a 200mg suppository.

also messing with benzos and other legit scripts will mess up with your sleep after you stop taking them. As well as alcohol, that'll make you wake up earlier than expected.

maybe if you are in a calorie deficit your body is waking up earlier due to a stress response or perhaps your estrogen is low
 
Do you take beta blockers?
They can cause insomnia, sometimes.
Theoretically, melatonin should counteract that, and you said you tried it.
In any case, i do not know if you take anything for hypertension
 
Not sure if it can be taken year round for years, but dayvigo (lemborexant) is not supposed to create dependence or withdrawals.
 
Unfortunately, I have the same problem. HGH and Ipamorelin make me feel more awake. DSIP doesn't work at all, melatonin only works sometimes. The only thing that helps is dimenhydrinate and Xanax, which shouldn't be a long-term solution.
 
The safest drug with the least negative effect on sleep quality that also has a very good safety profile (compared to other sleep drugs) is eszopiclone (Lunesta in the US).

When they were introduced, the "z-drugs" -- zolpidem (Ambien), eszopiclone (Lunesta), and zaleplon (Sonata, all US names) were recommended for a few days to weeks at max. A recent trial had patients taking up to 3 mg of eszopiclone for as long as six months. Tolerance is less of an issue than with benzos and other hypnotics (the z-drugs), there are fewer side effects, it is more effective than things like the atypical or cyclic antidepressants, and doesn't just royally fuck your sleep architecture. None of the other highly effective sleep drugs has been trialed for that long without things going really sideways.

One will almost certainly become dependent after this period, but discontinuation can be done gradually by stepping down to the 2 mg tablet, then 1 mg, then 0.5 mg. A month is a reasonable time to expect the weaning process to make the transition off to be as smooth as possible.

If you haven't tried it, it's available through a few vendors here and, since there's literature on it, an informed physician (especially a psychiatrist) will be open to it. Hell, most of them have no problem writing scripts for Ambien year after year for people. Give it a try and see if it works.

One really effective but potentially dicey option is quetiapine, an anti-psychotic that can also treat depression and certainly has a sedative effect. The cautionary note: this will make you so hungry, you'll fuck a hobo for a ham sandwich. If you are careful, and titrate up slowly, you can find a dose that helps you meet the caloric needs for a bulk and really knocks you out. It has a pronounced hangover effect in many people, but like the hunger effect, it has a dose-response curve. So if you attempt this route because you're trying to put on weight and also improve your sleep, again, go slowly. Even after you stop the drug and the serum level of hunger hormones (leptin, ghrelin, and peptide YY) return to normal, their concentrations in cerebrospinal fluid can remain altered for months to years.

I gained 60 lbs in two months accidentally, eating so ravenously that I would vomit, return to sleep, and then wake up and finish the second pizza of the two-pizza combo that I ordered. It is not to be fucked with.
 
You taking COQ10? I recently stopped taking it and now I've been able to sleep well after months of not being able to.
 
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