Permanent testicular damage

[vanjarus]

Hello to everybody on this forum!
I have question for mr. SWALE.
If a person, take HCG in big dose for prolonged time(5000iu every fifth day for a 40 days for example), can he expect permanent testicular damage and permanent test. desensatisation.I am just curios, because,in the past i was doing the similar thing a couple of times?

 

[mxim]

too much!!!

Hello to everybody on this forum!
I have question for mr. SWALE.
If a person, take HCG in big dose for prolonged time(5000iu every fifth day for a 40 days for example), can he expect permanent testicular damage and permanent test. desensatisation.I am just curios, because,in the past i was doing the similar thing a couple of times?

that is way too much hcg. why 5000 iu? i would stay clean for a few months at least and then have my lh and test levels checked. if lh and test levels are normal,you are fine. but never use that much hcg again. 1500 iu tops.
i prefer small dosages,250 iu every sat and sunday throughout your cycle.
mxim

 

[jd62]

that is way too much hcg. why 5000 iu? i would stay clean for a few months at least and then have my lh and test levels checked. if lh and test levels are normal,you are fine. but never use that much hcg again. 1500 iu tops.
i prefer small dosages,250 iu every sat and sunday throughout your cycle.
mxim

would this 250 iu 2x/week cause permanant damage if you were to do it for 8 weeks straight?

 

[SWALE]

I think the jury is still out as to whether permanent Leydig cell damage results from over zealous HCG administration. Given what I know about how the body works, however, I woud expect same to be the case. I have noted that men who use too much end up with "mushy" testicles upon physical examination.

BTW, I feel that one should never use more than 500IU per day.

 

[DLMCBBB]

I think the jury is still out as to whether permanent Leydig cell damage results from over zealous HCG administration. Given what I know about how the body works, however, I woud expect same to be the case. I have noted that men who use too much end up with "mushy" testicles upon physical examination.

BTW, I feel that one should never use more than 500IU per day.

Swale, your comments on "mushy" testicles sparked my interest. From sunrise to about 2:30pm my testicles do not fully descend, and are sort of "mushy". Yet in the late evening hrs, I have two clearly distinct good size testicles which descend. Any thoughts? Body temp? Impulse generator? Hernia? My GP doesnt have a clue. I would say a better term than mushy is, "bunched up and tight".

 

[SWALE]

Let's get our terms straight. "Mushy" means "mushy".

Adult onset hypogonadal testes tend to be mushy. Taking to much HCG makes them mushy, to, in my experience. It comes from Sertoli cell atrophy, which make up the vast bulk of the glands.