I officially retract my statements. The test kicked in fully and doing everything it should
My bad, I noticed this thread too late. There would be no reason for us not to put the manifested amount of test into vials. This is one of the cheapest raw powders. Another thing is that long esters start working in full after several weeks only and it looks like you was not patient enough.
Finally, the most important part. Since when we started evaluating products based on pure feelings and expected side effects? Not even a blood work. All the time we receive some complains, people say some product is not working because they do not feel it. Do not feel side effects, do not get expected results and so on... Hell, we have a great testing and replacement policy. If you doubt quality, why don`t you send a sample to Simec or other lab providing similar reports (if you know any)? If so sure, our gear is bunk, you have nothing to lose. We replace it for free and bear all testing/posting expenses. Final customer looses nothing. Is it such a huge issue to send a vial of some product or a blister under fake name and fake return address to a lab? For all the time here, I remember probably only 2 cases, when customers did this.
@Sampei (it is a pity, he disappeared from here) was one of those guys, who sent 2 or 3 samples he doubted and all of them came back proven.
I remember a case, when our... i think test prop was identification as fake by labmax test kit. Exactly the same sample was sent to Simec and...hell, it came back and proved, again, that the real manifested agent in manifested quality was there.
We definitely need more real sample HPLC reports done by customers. This is crucial. If a source sends samples to a lab and uploads reports afterwards, potential customer will always have a grain of doubt, whether those reports are real or some "special" samples were sent to a lab. It is pretty obvious for me. HPLC is is one of the few only ways to determine the real active agent and its quantity. We offer a great opportunity to anyone to test samples and we cover expenses if we fail, so customers do not lose anything if they are so sure that bunk/low-dosed products is received from us. Despite the great opportunity we offer, the complains we receive, are mostly based on subjective feelings and side effects...Does nobody find it not right?
Don`t wanna sound like an asshole, but now we do not even consider any complains founded just on feelings and expectations, which was not met. We sell not magic beans. You have to work hard to get results; even much harder than without these products. Most people and most newbies think vise verse for some reason.
@Alton Benjamin, don`t take it personally. This is not related to you only. I just lined out the general sitiation regarding complains we have these days. Most, almost all reviews are positive and 99% of customers are more than happy with the quality and come back. However, those who have some complains do not mainly have a single fair documentary evidence to back up their words. "I do not feel it, it is bunk" does not count and will never be. If someone does not feel it, the issue is not in our products, but in this person. Wrong nutrition plan, wrong cycle schedule, too high expectations, not sensitive body/response (this also happens sometimes),some liver issues, a thousand of other factors may affect efficiency.
If we had a bad batch (i do not say that all we produce is always 100% perfect and we never do mistakes; this is not so; it would be stupid and not true to state the opposite), hundreds/thousands of people would notice it and overflow boards with complains. I asked our production crew to prepare a short video with the mixing process so that you could imagine the volumes we are talking about. I promised this a few hours ago in our main thread, so just waiting for it. After you see it, you will understand, that is just not possible that the entire batch came out fine and only one,two or let it be even 10 items turned out bunk. Thanks for attention.
