[Pharmacom] Dbol/Test C [purchased Sep 2015, cycle start Dec 1 ]

T-LIFER

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Hello all,

As you can read up on in my intro post, I am a trans man on my first cycle. No "trans" does not mean I'm a dude that crossdresses...haha. I am and have been transitioning from female to male with hormone replacement therapy. This fact is beside the point for joining up here, so please keep negativity and personal opinion to a low roar.

I am 27 y/o and have started my first cycle using Dbol and Test Cypionate. My dosing consists of:

Week 1-4: 20mg Dbol per day (which I'm also hoping to reap androgenic effects like facial hair growth from)
Week 1-10 250mg/wk of testosterone cypionate, split Tuesday & Friday
plus my prescribed 60mg/wk of test cyp so I don't miss my transitional dosage in case of bunk product.

I had bloodwork done prior to cycling to compare about a month in for proof of legit test cyp. I am a day shy of two weeks into cycle and thus far there is really nothing to write home about. Increased acne on face and back. Frequently have PIP after Pharmacom test injections, but not after my prescription inject- guessing the volume difference could be to blame. Gym life has shown some increase in weightlifting ability for arms and chest. I aim to lift heavy and work to fatigue, but hardly get the pumps that many Dbol users have talked about. Perhaps increasing dose of Dbol would help? I only have two weeks left of using the product so I really want to dose adequately. I stayed down at 20mg the first two weeks because physiologically I am more female than male, so I thought even a small dose would be extremely effective.

I am very open to questions and constructive criticism.
 
Being that you are truly female I will go as far to say Nobody here could honestly give you any advice on using aas to help you fufill your transgender goals. You could be doing a lot of harm by listening to them.
 
Being that you are truly female I will go as far to say Nobody here could honestly give you any advice on using aas to help you fufill your transgender goals. You could be doing a lot of harm by listening to them.

Understood. At the very least I can log my experience, drop some knowledge, and help anyone else in my situation. I see this community as a way for me to stay positive and motivated about cycling experiences. Also there is a lot of knowledge here that is relevant to me such as side effects of compounds and related info. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm not looking too hard for help, especially not in relation to transitioning (I have a doctor for that), but rather a means of communication and support in regard to aas. My girlfriend and dog couldn't care less about my physique goals...
 
Well at least viralization isn't a concern of yours. I'm curious, would a person in your position still utilize an aromatase inhibitor to control estrogen? It's interesting to think about.
 
You know what, I was actually looking up shit about test on YouTube awhile back and come across a video log about a girl doing test injections for the same reason. Might want to check that out.

Other than that I doubt you'll find much useful info here. Good luck though.
 
Well at least viralization isn't a concern of yours. I'm curious, would a person in your position still utilize an aromatase inhibitor to control estrogen? It's interesting to think about.

I would have to think yes. Testosterone to estrogen conversion is just as much of a threat for me as is for a bio male. My understanding is that my body will aromatize extra testosterone just the same and cause accrual of fat. Plus an emotional imbalance, oily skin and acne, etc. Because of this, I take Erase Pro(manufactured AI) and also a natural herbal supplement AI called Myomin. I would have to check blood work to see if these are really beneficial thus far.
 
You're definitely going to need more than that for estrogen control. That's not a real AI. That's some GNC crap. You need arimidex, letrozole, aromasin, real aromatase inhibitors to control estrogen.
 
You're definitely going to need more than that for estrogen control. That's not a real AI. That's some GNC crap. You need arimidex, letrozole, aromasin, real aromatase inhibitors to control estrogen.

I suspected something more legit would be necessary. I'll get on that. Thanks man!
 
Hrrmmm...do you every wonder about what these hormones will do to you long term? take your E2 for instance females have a way higher lvl then males and if you take that away it could cause a lot of problems for you. If I'm correct I think e2 low on males and females have been being linked to cns and heart problems.
 
I suspected something more legit would be necessary. I'll get on that. Thanks man!

If you have a doctor for this, a real MD who has done this before. If any questions are raised here. Bring them to him and get his opinion. But don't ask any that would jepordize your ability to do what you are trying to do(your transistion). I really do not think there would be any. But you know your doctors perspective on things like I know mine, and know what he accepts and does not accept. For example the AI, ask him what he thinks. I would beleive you see him once or twice a week correct?
 
Run the idea of an AI past your doctor. Seems strange that you don't have access to one as is.

Who recommended the erase pro? Glancing at it, it just looks like a supplement industry snake oil.

Is your doctor aware of your extra supplementation? If so, he should be fine throwing you a script for some adex. Pretty much impossible for us to give sound advice, but the items you are using now will not be enough to combat e2 from supraphysiological hormone doses. Assuming you aromatise at a similar rate. . .
 
Testosterone to estrogen conversion is just as much of a threat for me as is for a bio male.
I had asked my gynecologist who does my HRT(I am male but lead the strangest life) about E2 conversion in females because my wife is on HRT with both Test, Estro and Progesterone. The reason I asked was because my girl (girlfriend, ex-girl friend, best friend, person who wants to put an ice pick in my ear. IDK what time is it now? FML) is estrogen dominant and only gets Test. My thought was that since she is Estro dominant and was high before the Test supplementation that she should be on an AI to keep it from getting further out of range. My Doc and her Doc both said that conversion in females is at a lesser rate. Is that true? I don't know? Maybe it is just E2 in females don't cause as much problems as in men.

And now for the big question. How come when my Test and E2's both go high my dick does not get bigger but my tits do. When my girls Test and E2's go high their clits get big but their tits don't? <---not complaining about the clit thing, it makes them more sensitive. Just stating a fact.
 
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