Been running 20 mg a day dbol from Pharmacom, and test. Mid cycle i plateau and take dbol to get over the hump. Its been 15 days now and I have not gained nothing from it. No pumps, no weight not a thing. To me the stuff is bunk. Any one else have bad results with it. I also can run 200 mg of my TRT test from the Pharmacy and get more pump , weight and stronger than 400mg of their test. Why cant a lab make the stuff like the old British Dragon ? I did not do test on this product, but this is my opinion and experience with their test and dbol. Winstrol I think is fair , but sure dont win no prize. Your opinions ?
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Pharmacom DBol Whats your opinion ?
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RomanEmpire25
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20mg is a low dose , have u felt gains at this dose of any other dbol before?
RomanEmpire25
Member
i hear sometimes pharmacom gear can be underdosed. I'd try 40mg a day and see if anything happens. Never tried pharmacom gear though just to be clear
ruckin
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My buddy used 20 mg/day of their dbol for 4 weeks a few months ago and made very good gains on it.
Edit: he added about 50 lbs to his squat in those 4 weeks actually.
Edit: he added about 50 lbs to his squat in those 4 weeks actually.
DedLift
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I did 20mg of their dbol and was afraid to go any higher tbh. Noticed the difference within days. I heard someone else talking about using their dbol recently and had no effects so it could be a bad/under dosed batch
RomanEmpire25
Member
Must've had some good dosed shit lol
& Yeah i hear some people get good gear from pharmacom and others see no results. pretty hit or miss imo
I have never tried Dbol at all. This was the first time. I dont understand that it is about the cheapest to make and its not dosed right. I think 20 a day is plenty, when no one recommends over 40. Of all the studying I have done about what doses people have made great gain on it makes a person wonder how much under dosed gear is out there. Listen to all the old time body builders and they say they only took around 250 - 300 mg of test a week with 10mg dol or another type of gear and said they could see their body change daily. But back then all they had was real pharmaceutical products. People are saying they take 1000mg and up a week of test and deca and everything else. What cant a lab just make the stuff with out trying to take peoples money. They would save customers and have a great clientele. Old British Dragon was known all over the world for it quality gear. Come on labs, lets see you step it up and compare to a great lab. The bad thing is Pharmacom gave this to me since i had to wait for my shipment to come in fron the warehouse. You dont give bunk anything to someone. Lost this customer.
In the nicest way, lost you as as customer? Why don't you take Pharmacom's offer to send it for testing? If underdosed and you are confident they pay fully.
Just saying they will let you test it... but all tests always come back good..
Except the 1 oxy and they appeared to have fixed that now.
It can happen
Just saying they will let you test it... but all tests always come back good..
Except the 1 oxy and they appeared to have fixed that now.
It can happen
Im a small guy, right now after 10 weeks i started at 156 and now at 170. And that is bulking, at least 200 protein a day and 3000 cal plus. My body was use to eating once a day. maybe 750 cal a day and very little protein.
CdnGuy
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Sry to hear you had a bad experience OP. Seeing as it was your first run on dbol. 20mg of legit dbol would have produced obvious gains fast. PC has had bad batches of dbol in the past. So it doesn't surprise me....
I have no lab to test it. And really it would be more of a hassle than what it would cost to just buy more from another source. I just want everyone to understand this is my experience and opinion. I have no other source at this time. But there has to be a legit source with great product. Where is the new source that can stand next to the old BD ?
CdnGuy
New Member
Imo you just nailed what PC banks on!!! That people will just be discouraged to go through the hassle. Then they can continue selling underdosed shit from time to time.
With all due respect to the bodybuilders from previous generations/eras, I always read their claims of what gear they ran, and dosages, with a grain of salt.
A lot of ex-pro-bodybuilders seem to exaggerate the gains they made, and seem to under report the dosages they took, as part of some macho, ego driven declaration about why their Era was better, and why they actually had more impressive physiques, you know, based on how little gear their generation ran. Because, you know, if them and their fellow BB'ers would have just been as ridiculous and irresponsible as today's BB'ers, well, of course they would have blown away today's bloated, over drugged competitors.
And in all fairness, isn't it this same way with EVERY comparison between eras, in everything (NBA, MLB, etc).
DedLift
New Member
Pretty ignorant, typical bro science bullshit. 20 my is nothing if you're big? How big you are has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with how someone's body reacts to a chemical or steroid. Someone prone to high blood pressure for instance might feel that 40 mg of dbol is crazy.
Vitlion
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Believe me, whatever the source you are using >> Steroids without eating like a madman = 0 ( null ) you will not gain a kilo especialy with Dbol even if you take 50 or 100. ( maybe you get water retention at that high dose but not with 20 mg) > this is Bulking not cutting cycle..
Bro, I guess (maybe im wrong) you are new in Steroids World, or this is your first cycle. 15 days is too early with 20 mg..
Testosterone alone is weak, If i were you i would take with it deca ( 200-300 mg/week ) and you can go with that low dose of dbol 20 mg and gain more.
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Bro, I guess (maybe im wrong) you are new in Steroids World, or this is your first cycle. 15 days is too early with 20 mg..
Testosterone alone is weak, If i were you i would take with it deca ( 200-300 mg/week ) and you can go with that low dose of dbol 20 mg and gain more.
Accept my greetings
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When i was taking pc dbol what made me able to identify it was the pumps. Most people say they get wicked back pumps. Mine was in my triceps and my forarms. My only reasoning for this is they were both underdeveloped in comparison to my biceps (take it for what you will) i also get terrible heartburn from dbol. When i take it i cannot work core at all because i almost instantly get acid reflux. Looking back i might have came off as a shill for pc because of how well it worked for me @40mg daily i did drop to 30 the last week. But i called bullshit on another guy who claimed bunk, this is before pc other issues. But all i can say is test it at least with labmax.
A person can only eat so much, I dont know what my trt levels was , I just let the DR figure all that out. I know with out labs nothing means crap. But I have 2 weeks left of the dbol in my cycle. I will up it to 40 and see. But I know on the test it is weak compared to what I get at the pharmacy. Im prescribed 100mg a week. I have used 200 a week and could feels more pumps, energy, feel like a king and have sex like no other. Havnt felt half of that on 400 PC test. Sending stuff to a lab to me , is more hassle than what its worth , but thats just IMO. But will try 40 for the last 2 weeks and see if it changes.
AnTabolic73
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sending it to lab would help the community more than this thread.
