Support with pinning

[Daz_900]

Good evening all,

I haven't done cycle in many years after a lengthy lay off due to an injury.

I am going to be doing a basic testosterone enanthate cycle

Dose - 300mg to start (up to 400mg depending progress)

Duration - 12 weeks

Estrogen control - Arimidex

I will be pinning twice a week rotating between glutes & shoulders

PCT - HCG while Estee clears then nolva + clomid 4 weeks tampering down

My question I could use support with is pin size I used to pin with 25g 1 inch in glutes & shoulders but over 5 cycles found it more painful with scar tissue build up. I have been told by a few people (lean 8-12% body fat estimated) that a insulin pin 29g 0.5 inch or 5/8 inch would be just fine into those sites further helped if warm oil up to pass through with warm water?.

I am around 12% currently would this be to shallow I am looking for advice from people with experience using shorter pins ideally. Not concerned about longer time pushing oil but would be more comfortable with idea of shorter pins if I'm not going to have problems with oil lumps.

Thank you for any advice.

 

[RekTest]

I pin with 30G, will never go back to the caveman days of 25g
Oil i pin 1inch, hgh i pin half inch.

Luer lok, 18g to pull the oil.

Also, your cycle length is borderline short. 16 would be better.

 

[Daz_900]

Just to confirm will be 2 pins per week between

I pin with 30G, will never go back to the caveman days of 25g

Luer lok, 18g to pull the oil.

Also, your cycle length is borderline short. 16 would be better.

Thank you,

Just to confirm 2 pins per week between 0.7ml & 1ml each this will be ok considering length of pin? 0.5 or 5/8 more recommended in this case?

Really appreciate the response & experience

 

[RekTest]

Just to confirm will be 2 pins per week between

Thank you,

Just to confirm 2 pins per week between 0.7ml & 1ml each this will be ok considering length of pin? 0.5 or 5/8 more recommended in this case?

Really appreciate the response & experience

Brother, I pin 3 times a day. 2 per week is nothing
You will want 1 inch for oil, im low bf and .5 is barely enough for my delts and if you are talking about doing it other places, your gonna want 1 inch to not get oil bumps.

 

[Jfrost89]

1ml 28g 1/2” insulin needle is what I use but I wouldn’t do your glutes. I’d do leaner body parts that you can get into the muscle. I hit rear and side delts, quads and lats. When I inject I push the needle down about 1/2” into the skin as I inject to get it a little deeper.

 

[Daz_900]

1ml 28g 1/2” insulin needle is what I use but I wouldn’t do your glutes. I’d do leaner body parts that you can get into the muscle. I hit rear and side delts, quads and lats. When I inject I push the needle down about 1/2” into the skin as I inject to get it a little deeper.

Thank you,

I am struggling to find places where I can get lua lock syringes. I always used the exchange before but it's closed where I am.

Any DM possible of reliable place don't mean to break any rules but if isn't safe (as can be) I'll just pass the stack

 

[Eddie.]

I pin everyday 0,62ml with 29G half inch insulin syringe. I rotate between side delts, rear delts and pecs and currently i'm above 12% bf.

There's no reason doing glutes, with that amount of volume you could just stick to side and rear delts only and you'll be more than fine.

If you plan pinning between 0,7 to 1ml as you said then pin Monday right side delt, Thursday left side delt, Monday rear right delt, Thursday left side delt and keep the same pattern. It's almost impossible to create scar tissue with that frequency, oil volume and needle size.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Thank you,

I am struggling to find places where I can get lua lock syringes. I always used the exchange before but it's closed where I am.

Any DM possible of reliable place don't mean to break any rules but if isn't safe (as can be) I'll just pass the stack

Amazon is a wonderland of many things

 

[Daz_900]

Thank you to all for advice this forum never lets anyone down.

I will look into delts more as I was only fully aware of the side delt as a location spot but always preferred flutes due to amount of veins, blood rich nerve endings in delts.

Amazon is a great place must admit

 

[Daz_900]

Putting order in today for pins. I have found some 27g 1 inch pins would this be a problem if depth is the same (1inch) just the oil takes slightly longer to pass through the syringe

Brother, I pin 3 times a day. 2 per week is nothing
You will want 1 inch for oil, im low bf and .5 is barely enough for my delts and if you are talking about doing it other places, your gonna want 1 inch to not get oil bumps.

 

[bigboy420]

PCT - HCG while Estee clears then nolva + clomid 4 weeks tampering down

Dont start pinning. Throw everything in the trash.

PCT should NOT be planed when you are starting. Your cycle is short troll. Stay natty. Be on forever or dont start.

You have bilion threads saying the same thing. Go back to reading.

 

[Eddie.]

Dont start pinning. Throw everything in the trash.

PCT should NOT be planed when you are starting. Your cycle is short troll. Stay natty. Be on forever or dont start.

You have bilion threads saying the same thing. Go back to reading.

Not all people like to blast and cruise dude, let anyone decide for themself. Also it's not his first cycle, so he knows what to expect on PCT.

 

[bigboy420]

Not all people like to blast and cruise dude, let anyone decide for themself. Also it's not his first cycle, so he knows what to expect on PCT.

Then dont blast or cruise. Then TRT.

Testosterone is a longterm medicine. Trying it makes it only worse if he doesnt commit.

WHAT IS TO BE EXPECTED ON A PCT?

I fully disagree with your statement.

 

[bigboy420]

Whats his test lvl natural even?
Just a dejavu begginer thread whos OP did not read.

 

[Eddie.]

Then dont blast or cruise. Then TRT.

Testosterone is a longterm medicine. Trying it makes it only worse if he doesnt commit.

I fully disagree with your statement.

You can disagree as much as you want, from all the testosterone being produced the latest 70 years only a very small amount is being used as longterm medicine. People were doing cycle and PCT for ages, until very recently when blast and cruise gained its popularity.

Even pro bodybuilders, Olympia tier, after a contest they were stopping cold turkey for months and then they hop on gear again. People getting on TRT for life while they have a total test of 500, you think it's ok? Is this considered a longterm "medicine"? No buddy, they all want the gains and the good life, the same i want too.

Search any statistics you want and present them here, i dare you. Post how much of the testosterone being produced currently, is going for people with actual hypogonadism and not self induced due to steroid use and come back here to tell me.. I'm curious.

WHAT IS TO BE EXPECTED ON A PCT?

Worse recovery, less nitrogen retention, less strength and pumps, lower libido etc..and after 1-2 months you return to baseline and slightly above. Wtf man, you're here all that long and you don't know the basics? Jeez

 

[Sourpower]

I pin with 30G, will never go back to the caveman days of 25g
Oil i pin 1inch, hgh i pin half inch.

Luer lok, 18g to pull the oil.

Also, your cycle length is borderline short. 16 would be better.

You’ve got me looking at my box of 23g with disdain now.

 

[bigboy420]

People were doing cycle and PCT for ages, until very recently when blast and cruise gained its popularity.

People did alot of stuff wrong in the past lol. Bodybuilding evolved quite hard.

No buddy, they all want the gains and the good life, the same i want too.

What?

you don't know the basics

Ill never learn pct. NEVER EVER YOU HEAR.

I mean, I think its bad idk. If he has high test as a natty he will rebound.

Better to stay natty than such a short time on. Think starting test is a bigger decision than everyone thinks it is.

TRT should be the end for all of us.
But def a easy decision for me since I was hypo. Dunno man. World is free.