ironwarrior
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Pharmacom test e 300 and pcom deca bloodwork
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I'm surprised non of the pharmacom reps haven't showed up to answer questions or make this right. Someone needs to send the pharmacom guys here a link so they can explain or make it right at least.
Impulse666
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Your name, ss#, date of birth, city you were born in, mom's maiden name, you know ALL the info.
Did you read the sticky?
When was the last pin before blood was pulled? Time frame of purchase? You got it from basic? I can't think of anything else right now....
He did pst this on the Basic thread, so I'll help out. He pinned Wednesday evening and tested Saturday AM, was out of the 36-48 hour peak window for sure. I can't comment on when he purchased.
I would want an answer from Basic reps to see why it's the number it is. I'm sure their going to say wrong pinning times. They already posted they don't trust blood work, or something like that. So, chances of help are low. Try to find your other blood work and post that as well, with all needed info. Read the posting sticky seven gave you and follow that. My fault for not sending you there first.
@Pharmacom Helper @Pharmacom Labs
Any comment on this blood work? Your customer seems to get better numbers with the same pin schedule, on different labs gear. He would need to give details and post proof.
I would want an answer from Basic reps to see why it's the number it is. I'm sure their going to say wrong pinning times. They already posted they don't trust blood work, or something like that. So, chances of help are low. Try to find your other blood work and post that as well, with all needed info. Read the posting sticky seven gave you and follow that. My fault for not sending you there first.
@Pharmacom Helper @Pharmacom Labs
Any comment on this blood work? Your customer seems to get better numbers with the same pin schedule, on different labs gear. He would need to give details and post proof.
So at least 60hrs after last pin.
GP test e tested at 275mg/ml both times. Label claims 250.
DoUEvenCardio
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@ironwarriorYour name, ss#, date of birth, city you were born in, mom's maiden name, you know ALL the info.
Did you read the sticky?
When was the last pin before blood was pulled? Time frame of purchase? You got it from basic? I can't think of anything else right now....
It would also be helpful to post the batch # and expiration date on that bottle of testosterone. Maybe some of us can test same dates and batch numbers to see if these tests correlate.
I'm also very interested in the response from our boys. Its all fun and games and football pools. No rent(board fees) and a shit ton of cash from meso members. These guys are living the life.
With the prices they charge and all the videos of their athletes and their production plant when shit like this happens it should remind everyone that Pcom is just a ugl. Also, as is true with all ugl's, they are at the mercy of the Chinese raw powder supplier.
I imagine they won't be sending out replacements. To do so would open them up to a landslide of pm's and emails from others who have purchased the same test.
Once again the batch # bullshit will be discussed. The only real and honest conclusion to be drawn as far as batch #'s go is that its simply bullshit and something that was done to resemble pharm products and give a more professional appearance.
Its true that they are the most tested lab on AL and have done very well. However, Pcom wanted to become the monster that they have become. With all the success comes higher expectations from customers. Let's be honest here....expecting solid bloods from them isn't what anyone would consider an unrealistic expectation.
Pcom wants to be viewed as being on a higher level than their competitors then they need to be on that level in all areas. This is going to give us all an idea of what kind of operation we're really dealing with.
I expect that warrior is going to be told to send an unopened vial to Simec. I understand these folks are not going to be operating for the foreseeable future? Very interesting.
With the prices they charge and all the videos of their athletes and their production plant when shit like this happens it should remind everyone that Pcom is just a ugl. Also, as is true with all ugl's, they are at the mercy of the Chinese raw powder supplier.
I imagine they won't be sending out replacements. To do so would open them up to a landslide of pm's and emails from others who have purchased the same test.
Once again the batch # bullshit will be discussed. The only real and honest conclusion to be drawn as far as batch #'s go is that its simply bullshit and something that was done to resemble pharm products and give a more professional appearance.
Its true that they are the most tested lab on AL and have done very well. However, Pcom wanted to become the monster that they have become. With all the success comes higher expectations from customers. Let's be honest here....expecting solid bloods from them isn't what anyone would consider an unrealistic expectation.
Pcom wants to be viewed as being on a higher level than their competitors then they need to be on that level in all areas. This is going to give us all an idea of what kind of operation we're really dealing with.
I expect that warrior is going to be told to send an unopened vial to Simec. I understand these folks are not going to be operating for the foreseeable future? Very interesting.
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The problem that pharmacom has is that it is tough to differentiate the scammers from the authentic posts. I have seen a few scammers and one of them got caught in their bullshit. I have been personally following all threads on them due to the fact I am planning on using their product.
Also...as Pcom pays no rent
I know it doesn't mean much....the "Feeling" I have....but I'd bet things are going to be a little different in this instance.
Thanks for bumping the other threads where guys claimed bad bloods, @Just Fish ....I wasn't around for the Test P and that Derek character.
I know it doesn't mean much....the "Feeling" I have....but I'd bet things are going to be a little different in this instance.
Pharmacom Helper
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Hello man. Do you have unopened vial of testE for testing ?
We are ready to cover all your expenses for testing of this vial in Simec (or in any other LAB which can do this test)
What in the hell will a different vial being sent to SIMEC tell us in an instance Like this? Let's be really blunt here. The vial in question is the problem, not another one. I'm all for SIMEC testing, but to test another vial won't tell us anything about the sub par number in this case. Again, this is just my opinion. Seven brought up a good point and he was out about 60 hours, but this is a long ester and at his dose, assuming he didn't miss any and pinned that dose every time shouldn't get a number this low.
There are scammers true, but at what point do we support our members and at when do we as a community draw the line with a UGL who has had this happen more than once, bad GH, bad tests from SIMEC on other gear, etc... Sure, there is more good tests than bad, but I just can't support a UGL with their track record and history of treating their customers like they don't know anything.
@biggerben69 states a great point as well. Batch numbers and exp dates really mean nothing. We're not saying every vial is bad and if we found an underdosed vial, we all know the rest of that "batch" will still be sold.
I just hope more people read this thread and whatever the outcome is to better educate themselves. Does the OP continue to run this vial, up the dose, get testing done in the 36-48 hour window, IDK. That's his call and I wish him luck.
There are scammers true, but at what point do we support our members and at when do we as a community draw the line with a UGL who has had this happen more than once, bad GH, bad tests from SIMEC on other gear, etc... Sure, there is more good tests than bad, but I just can't support a UGL with their track record and history of treating their customers like they don't know anything.
@biggerben69 states a great point as well. Batch numbers and exp dates really mean nothing. We're not saying every vial is bad and if we found an underdosed vial, we all know the rest of that "batch" will still be sold.
I just hope more people read this thread and whatever the outcome is to better educate themselves. Does the OP continue to run this vial, up the dose, get testing done in the 36-48 hour window, IDK. That's his call and I wish him luck.
I have yet to see a simec test result from someone with low blood test. The cases I've seen either person got caught or disappeared. Not saying that this is the case here, his test was really low I would love to see the simec results.
They will not test an opened vial, so you will get the same results you can read on AL. He would have to send in a new, unopened vial, not the vial in question.
23inch
Member
So tell me, Mr. Smartass, if I don't like Pharmacom, and I have been running gear from some other lab and then I do a bloodwork with a poor result, then I decide to post on meso that it was Pharmacom's gear I was running instead. What would you do ?
Not saying this was the case Iron, just replying to this little fella's logic.
By the way, have you experienced some gains ?
AnTabolic73
Well-known Member
it wouldn't have to be that hard, you could say you're pinning a gram of test but actually pinning trt dose.
and that's what pharmacom has to deal with. and honest Bros that receive underdosed shit get fucked because some lowlife wants to scam for his next cycle instead of paying for it.
nothing pharmacom can do, except say send it to simec. they trust simec analysis more than a customers bloodwork.
AnTabolic73
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I'll like to add that I dont think @ironwarrior is scamming
Dr__Jan_Itor
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Also adding the 10x rule doesn't always apply it's more like a 7-10x range on most blood test I have seen and done myself.
And he is splitting injections into 300 or so. And being out side of the peak time with a fast metabolism he is Arround 5-6x of the dosage.
Regarding the testing. I think it's clear why he can't send an open bottle. Besides at 6 weeks and 600mg/week he already is on the second vial of test anyway.
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And he is splitting injections into 300 or so. And being out side of the peak time with a fast metabolism he is Arround 5-6x of the dosage.
Regarding the testing. I think it's clear why he can't send an open bottle. Besides at 6 weeks and 600mg/week he already is on the second vial of test anyway.
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ironwarrior
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Man, didn't think I would get accused of possible scamming from posting this. Hopefully enough of you know me well enough to that I would never do that.
I know @Skull can vouch for me, he helped me with advice through PM while I was on the first half of this cycle using the GP for which I have bloodwork on, it's on the naps thread, I can put it up again here too. And as I switched to pharmacom he helped me with advice on Deca through PM.
@CdnGuy helped me a lot on advice using GP EQ and he saw the bloodwork on the GP test at that time.
I'm trying not to feel disrespected, because I appreciate the seriousness with how you guys take this to protect the community, that's why I like meso.
I know @Skull can vouch for me, he helped me with advice through PM while I was on the first half of this cycle using the GP for which I have bloodwork on, it's on the naps thread, I can put it up again here too. And as I switched to pharmacom he helped me with advice on Deca through PM.
@CdnGuy helped me a lot on advice using GP EQ and he saw the bloodwork on the GP test at that time.
I'm trying not to feel disrespected, because I appreciate the seriousness with how you guys take this to protect the community, that's why I like meso.
23inch
Member
Now you tell me who the fuck called you a scammer, I have a 23inch surprise for this person.
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