Pharmasource Test Cyp 200mg - in house brand - Blood Test Results

[bickel29]

Compound: Test Cyp, 200mg/ml

Source: Pharmasource, in-house brand

Date Purchased: December 2016

Other Info: carrier oil was Miglyol 840, 10ml vial

Protocol: I ran this for 6 weeks, 1 shot per week, 300mg total weekly dosage.
Bloods were pulled 36 hours after last pin, again, at the 6 week point.

Results: Test level came back at 2,931. Yes, almost 10x. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND READ ON IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ORDERING!

Miscelaneous info: The numbers (see attached file as well) were obviously impressive. That said, I absolutely WOULD NOT run this same gear again, not as constituted as of the December 2016 date which I received mine. Something in the brewing process gave me HORRIBLE PIP! So bad, that i would have quit running this test after the 3rd week, but I REALLY wanted to get the bloods done for the community here, so I stuck it out. Horrible PIP, as in huge knots the size somewhere between a golf ball and a pool ball that lasted several days, and pain in my glutes. I normally tolerate PIP quite well, but this was obnoxious and unacceptable for Test Cyp.
I was running Deca the first 3 weeks, from a very well respected UGL. Is it possible that my deca also contained some test in it that inflated this result? I guess it is possible, but the UGL that the deca came from has always tested very well on AnabolicLab. And again, the deca was not run between weeks 4-6.

Hope this helps! Please let me know if I have forgotten any pertinent info.

 

[Skull]

Damn B.... I'm so sorry to hear about your bad experience with the pip an I applaud you for sticking it out. I think everyone should respect what you have just had to go through in order to get those bloods pulled. Not many here would have been man enough to keep pinning that gear for that long. Their has to be test in that deca cuz those readings are wayyyyyy off or else he's over dosing. Either way something's up in the brewing process cuz their shouldn't be any pip whatsoever if brewed properly.

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl

50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl

125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl

300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl

600mg of test a week- T level was 2,370

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl

500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl

750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

Again big brotha bick, I'm terribly sorry to hear about this BS. Hopefully everyone that's thinking about ordering from this source sees this an takes note. They have officially been......!!!!!!WARNED!!!!!!!......

 

[MindlessWork]

Maybe an allergic reaction to the miglyol?

 

[bickel29]

There is more dialogue/info/input regarding these results here:

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[Evom1]

Agreed. The pip from his stuff was horrendous, I did not stick it out like you did

 

[Sk8man101]

Thank you man!!

 

[bickel29]

Damn B.... I'm so sorry to hear about your bad experience with the pip an I applaud you for sticking it out. I think everyone should respect what you have just had to go through in order to get those bloods pulled. Not many here would have been man enough to keep pinning that gear for that long. Their has to be test in that deca cuz those readings are wayyyyyy off or else he's over dosing. Either way something's up in the brewing process cuz their shouldn't be any pip whatsoever if brewed properly.

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl

50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl

125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl

300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl

600mg of test a week- T level was 2,370

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl

500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl

750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

Again big brotha bick, I'm terribly sorry to hear about this BS. Hopefully everyone that's thinking about ordering from this source sees this an takes note. They have officially been......!!!!!!WARNED!!!!!!!......

Skull, my good dude, great to see ya!

To address your point(s) above:

-- Thanks for giving me props above, but a lot of us would have stuck it out when you are only 2 or 3 weeks (2 or 3 more shots) away from your goal of getting bloods done.

--If I had to choose between the 2 scenarios you presented above, UNDOUBTEDLY I would go with "this test was overdosed"! Which may also explain the PIP (High concentration)?
The lab I got the deca from is by far one of the most respected UGL's in the game, with a very solid track record of accurately dosed gear, that is the correct compound. YOU have used this lab yourself Skull.

-- I have achieved 10x results a couple of times in the past. One, notably, was Bio which was headed up by Stretch, for those who have been around Meso since 2013/2014. Quite possible that those other 10x results were overdosed, so...

--Regarding the PIP awareness raised by my post here, this source has actually had a few complaints of PIP in his thread, and for what it's worth, he has attempted to make changes to fix it. Again, FWIW... but the issue is def known to those flowing the source thread.

 

[RThoads]

Thank you for the detailed info @bickel29
Sorry you had to endure that PIP -- not worth it even for those high TT number.

 

[bickel29]

Thank you for the detailed info @bickel29
Sorry you had to endure that PIP -- not worth it even for those high TT number.

Oh trust me, my friend, I only continued on, as I was determined to get the bloods done. I would never attempt to justify that PIP solely for the sake of gains! I would double or triple up on another sources gear to achieve the Test levels I was after, before I would tolerate that.

 

[Docd187123]

Damn B.... I'm so sorry to hear about your bad experience with the pip an I applaud you for sticking it out. I think everyone should respect what you have just had to go through in order to get those bloods pulled. Not many here would have been man enough to keep pinning that gear for that long. Their has to be test in that deca cuz those readings are wayyyyyy off or else he's over dosing. Either way something's up in the brewing process cuz their shouldn't be any pip whatsoever if brewed properly.

According to an official clinical application :

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl

50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl

125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl

300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl

600mg of test a week- T level was 2,370

250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl

500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl

750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

Again big brotha bick, I'm terribly sorry to hear about this BS. Hopefully everyone that's thinking about ordering from this source sees this an takes note. They have officially been......!!!!!!WARNED!!!!!!!......

The numbers you posted are nadir levels or trough levels. Bickel tested peak levels.

 

[Savagesteve]

@bickel29 good looking out brother. I got a little pip in the form of lumps at first with his cyp but I get absolutely none when mixing it with primus Ray mast...maybe due to the dilution of the oil who knows. My buddy just started his line of prop and said he has a golf ball but it's his first time running prop so it's either his body doesn't like the prop or his solvents used. Also I bought a lot of cyp from my buddy because he couldn't handle the cyp pip of PS oils.

 

[anfee]

Man I feel bad that you experienced the pip from his oils. Crazy how some have it and some don't. Awesome bloods though, almost too awesome to not bring up a possibility of overdosing... do you have a script for trt with bloodwork on true pharma grade test to compare??

Hopefully you have some backup test to switch to.

 

[Eman]

carrier oil was Miglyol

What did you think of this carrier? I've heard it's like pushing water.

Also, curious if you've ever used it in the past? I think I've read that this oil has the ability to act as a mild solvent. If the brewer was inexperienced with it, that might explain the PIP you're getting... It's cyp for Christ sake, shouldn't feel a thing. If you were diluting it with deca it REALLY shouldn't have had PIP.

Thanks for the contribution, bick.

 

[bickel29]

Man I feel bad that you experienced the pip from his oils. Crazy how some have it and some don't. Awesome bloods though, almost too awesome to not bring up a possibility of overdosing... do you have a script for trt with bloodwork on true pharma grade test to compare??

Hopefully you have some backup test to switch to.

Anfee - I do not have TRT script numbers for comparison. To add to that, my bloods in the past were always pulled on bi-weekly injections, which to my understanding makes comparing these results to past results difficult, since I was only pinning 1 time per week this time. And TBH, I could not (well, would not) have pinned this stuff twice per week with that wicked ass PIP!

I have similar blood results about 3 years ago on one other labs gear, but that lab pretty famously flamed out here in grand fashion. So it is hard to say how properly their gear was dosed. Their rep was one of our communities beloved members - yes, those were different times here.

Lastly, yes I have switched to different test. Fortunately I have some.domestic labs always lined up and ready with TA that literally rivals Amamzon Prime, so...

Let me know if I can provide any other info, my friend.

 

[bickel29]

What did you think of this carrier? I've heard it's like pushing water.

Also, curious if you've ever used it in the past? I think I've read that this oil has the ability to act as a mild solvent. If the brewer was inexperienced with it, that might explain the PIP you're getting... It's cyp for Christ sake, shouldn't feel a thing. If you were diluting it with deca it REALLY shouldn't have had PIP.

Thanks for the contribution, bick.

Eman, GREAT to see you, fine sir!

Yes, the Miglyol is very, very thin. Pushes through as easy as any oil I have ever injected.

No, I have not used it in the past. I would not be against using something with this carrier again, as I am not sure that the carrier was to blame.

And yes, you are correct sir, Cyp should not hurt if brewed correctly. Unfortunately for all involved, quite a few of us experienced similar issues with this sources oils.

 

[anfee]

Anfee - I do not have TRT script numbers for comparison. To add to that, my bloods in the past were always pulled on bi-weekly injections, which to my understanding makes comparing these results to past results difficult, since I was only pinning 1 time per week this time. And TBH, I could not (well, would not) have pinned this stuff twice per week with that wicked ass PIP!

I have similar blood results about 3 years ago on one other labs gear, but that lab pretty famously flamed out here in grand fashion. So it is hard to say how properly their gear was dosed. Their rep was one of our communities beloved members - yes, those were different times here.

Lastly, yes I have switched to different test. Fortunately I have some.domestic labs always lined up and ready with TA that literally rivals Amamzon Prime, so...

Let me know if I can provide any other info, my friend.

Thanks for all the info! I'm still somewhat new here. Only been here about a year so I didn't experience "the good ole days" hah

 

[Eman]

No, I have not used it in the past. I would not be against using something with this carrier again, as I am not sure that the carrier was to blame.

@notanothersnake is familiar with this carrier, not sure if he knows whether it needs to be treated in a special way because of it's solvent properties... I'm not highly familiar with it myself but was interested in it because of its viscosity.

 

[notanothersnake]

@notanothersnake is familiar with this carrier, not sure if he knows whether it needs to be treated in a special way because of it's solvent properties... I'm not highly familiar with it myself but was interested in it because of its viscosity.

Yes, I'm very familiar with the carrier. You are the 2nd person EVER that didn't like the Mig... It is similar to MCT oil, just refined to my understanding. And I think there is a small percentage of ppl who can not tolerate MCT. Have you every tried MCT? I wonder if its the same ppl that cant take both. Sorry this happened to you but I love my Mig 840

 

[Savagesteve]

Yes, I'm very familiar with the carrier. You are the 2nd person EVER that didn't like the Mig... It is similar to MCT oil, just refined to my understanding. And I think there is a small percentage of ppl who can not tolerate MCT. Have you every tried MCT? I wonder if its the same ppl that cant take both. Sorry this happened to you but I love my Mig 840

The mig gave me small lumps at first but my body either got used to it or mixing with with primus Ray mast p has helped me not get any lumps from pinning it.

 

[notanothersnake]

The mig gave me small lumps at first but my body either got used to it or mixing with with primus Ray mast p has helped me not get any lumps from pinning it.

Thats interesting. I've had ppl that got lumps with every shot they had ever taken until the started with mig. Now they won't buy anything but mig. Now idk where some labs get their mig but I have heard of ordering mig and getting industrial grade instead of food grade. Which is not held to the same standards as far as impurities and such. I ordered mine from manufacturer, had to buy a shit ton of it tho!!!
I hear it's on ebay tho lol. For real stuff, not knock off