@biggerben69 You running knockoff pharmavol or would you care to shed some light on this? LOL
Sorry for the late reply. Pharmavol was first seen on a private/invite only board that is now defunct. This was 2014 and the board was syntheticgenetics.
The owner of Pharmavol says he is taking my advice and will be closing the pharmavol website.
It served its purpose. He has been on ab, bop, m&s, and SM. The only board he is still on is sm(superiormuscle). His forum has been active there since 2017.
The website was useful in helping him keep customers after leaving the boards he once served.
Its a fact that many guys won't keep ordering from a source once they stop paying board fees and their forum closes. Confidence isn't what it was when they were actively answering members questions through posts and pm's. Its reasonable to assume..because its s fact; if there is any kind of issue with an order, staff of the board a source has left isn't going to be able to help.
So, Pharmavol was sourcing on the boards I listed. He built up a customer base. Most sources, if they're smart, aren't going to use the boards private message system to process orders. They'll give the member a secure email..or mistakenly assuming Wickr is as secure, give the member a Wickr handle.
Pharmavol, thinking outside the box, got a website up and running and pushed the use of the site to process orders. So, instead of cutting another check or sending a nice chunk of bitcoin for board fees, he put that money into product inserts for every vial sold.(or something besides rent)
His customer base at that board is already trained and feeling like they are part of the inner circle with a password to gain entry to the site. It was brilliant...and horrific at the same time.
A lot of members of the Community, when it comes to as website like we're talking about, believe it unsafe and unwise. Myself included. The thing that set this source apart and brought him a great deal of success could also be the very thing that takes him down.
It can draw unwanted attention from LE. Its best to blend in the rest of heard. Its for sure a double edged sword. I believe its time to change things up. A complete overhaul. Shutter the website.
Its tough to let go of things at times. He raised Pharmavol which grew into a very successful brand. Its time to move on. Time to let the name Pharmavol become a memory. Security and my friends personal safety along with his wife and child. Bob and weave. Keep your head down and keep moving forward.
Now, Pharmavol is a friend of mine. I helped him move his family to a new state to live. A member mentioned that Pharmavol trained a friend of his? A guy as busy as he is will take the time....to much time....to answer training questions and map out and plan nutrition/diet and drug protocols. He is the real deal. A top level amateur. He competes at a very high level.
The dream is to get to the next level. Pharmavol was the contingency plan but it took on a life of its own. Its all very exciting and once again scary as all hell.
Pharmavol has another brand that really is in its infancy stages. Medco-Pharm is the same high quality and soon to be often tested gear that Pharmavol is.
Why is the gear so popular? Besides what I've already written, he has the best presentation in the business.
I've heard guys say they couldn't care less what the labels look like...generic blk and white is fine as long as the gear meets label claims and is clean. I can't argue with that train of thought. However, if I'm the owner of the ugl I'm going to have a business model and a plan.
Pharmavol and Medco-Pharm have glossy labels and glossy boxes for each vial with amazing attention to detail. That's the owner again. Graphic design is an area he's excels in. The boxes are now coming with inserts as well.
The orals, which he presses himself with a skill level that only comes with experience, come in plastic bottles of 50 with a screw top.
The presentation coupled with the lowest prices I can remember ever seeing has made Pharmavol a favorite of resellers. It is a high volume ugl without a doubt.
There have also been a few other brands that have come from Pharmavol camp over the years that have had successful runs in different parts of the Community. That means some of you have already enjoyed Pharmavol gear without knowing it.
A member posted about a youtube/instagram influencer who uses Pharmavol gear. It doesn't mean the gear is any better or worse than any other popular ugl. Its just means its gotten around. That can be both good and bad.
Another controversial social media influencer is still a fan of my friends products.
I had emailed Bostin Loyd when Adnan Sanat, the Turkish source, had scammed some Meso members. Adnan is known to claim success as a vendor on Bostin's board.
It had been close to 18 months since bostin had received his last order of gear from the Pharmavol owner. There were different labels on the vials back then but it was the from the same batches of gear being sold around the Community with Pharmavol labels.
Bostin told me he really liked the gear and was interested in getting more. Said it was some of the best ugl gear he had used up to that point. He told me if I could get the owner to come to his board he would waive fees and source rent free. That's something that may be happening this coming year.
This probably sounds like a ridiculously long ad for this ugl. For the sake of being transparent I'll disclose that I am compensated by this ugl. I have a hands off roll. My friend describes my roll as "consulting".
I don't know anything about brewing gear. I have no interest in remailing being involved in selling anything as ORD had its way with me. I do know my way around the Community. I know alot of good folks.
I registered here at Meso in 2006. The first board I ever joined was the original Anabolex in 1998 I believe? It was pre 2000 for sure. That board crashed and most all content was wiped around the year 2000.
Right around that time I registered on elitefitness and a few others. I've owned and operated legit and not so legit businesses with varying degrees of success. I have a decent feel and understanding what's safe and what isn't where vending is concerned.
Complacency can be a dangerous thing. Personal security dictates its time to make changes to stay safe. I've got plans to keep the product alive a flowing while dipping out and making the changes necessary to stay safe. I like being on the outside than being right in the middle of things. Hands off is a comfortable place to be for me.