planedriver
New Member
You ever pin glute and quads?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
pinned some pharmacom test 500
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Yeah it wasn't swollen or red but when you forget to swap pins and use a dull 22g 1 1/2" needle on an accident you can't help but have nightmares about doing it again lmao pip was horrible but no infection so that was good
I've had pip from ugl and pharma gear before . I've also had an infection before. Thier are obvious distinctions between the two. Atleast there was for me.
It started with just a little pain. I thought no big deal, heating pad and ten unit should cover it. I was wrong; by the second day I had pain and localized swelling that was warm to the touch and caused me to limp. Somewhere around the 3rd night along came fever and chills. The next day I went to the doctor and got the official diagnosis.
Like yours, Gravity caused my "lump" to move further down my ass. Lol.
It sucks man, sorry you're going thru it, but the risk is real when living this lifestyle.
There are several different causes, technique, dirty gear etc. There are also things you can do to mitigate those risk, filter gear, learn proper technique, practice aseptic techniques, etc.
To sum it up, learn from this experience and seek medical care if your issues don't subside.
It's been nearly a week for me and no chills or anything like that
I would've known if it was an infection by now right?
I just realized one thing
I never knew gravity would pull the oil down
For whatever reason I didn't make the connection lol
So anyway, I would experience very minor pip with the 300 but i would always have pip that's much lower than the spot I pinned
So I'm thinking "I don't remember pinning this low, but I'll make sure I pin higher next time"
So this time with the 500, I pinned in the fatty part of my shoulder. I still thought I hit the muscle, but it's more possible that I just injected into fat.
I understand that it isn't absorbed as well through fat
Could me pinning into fat along with the high concentration be my issue?
It's been nearly a week for me and no chills or anything like that
I would've known if it was an infection by now right?
I just realized one thing
I never knew gravity would pull the oil down
For whatever reason I didn't make the connection lol
So anyway, I would experience very minor pip with the 300 but i would always have pip that's much lower than the spot I pinned
So I'm thinking "I don't remember pinning this low, but I'll make sure I pin higher next time"
So this time with the 500, I pinned in the fatty part of my shoulder. I still thought I hit the muscle, but it's more possible that I just injected into fat.
I understand that it isn't absorbed as well through fat
Could me pinning into fat along with the high concentration be my issue?
If your needle is the proper length and you're in the proper area you'll hit the muscle. Gravity will still due it's course. Don't know if you ever played ball, but it's like hitting with your crown of your helmet. You'll lead with your head (as they taught it in my day) and you will likely get a black eye as gravity will pull your sorry tissue damage (blood pooling beneath your skin).
I don't know exactly where you pinned. There is an inverted triangle in the upper center of your deltoid that is the optimal place for pinning. There are some diagrams out there. Do a google search.
You're issue could be technique, but it's hard to miss the deltoid if you're in the upper center. You can feel the difference when you enter a puscle. Maybe it's my training but you can actually feel a difference in texture.
I can say this, that high concentration test (most likely with EO) didn't do you any favors. Dilute that shit and get (buy) some with lower concentration if you can. Also, avoid the area that is irritated. Research spot (IM) injections and find a new spot to inject. Again, if your shit isn't any better, seek medical advice brother.
Additionally...
IMO, I think pinning high concentration is definitely an issue. Regardless of muscle or fat, if it interferes with your training than what's the point.
It's been nearly a week for me and no chills or anything like that
I would've known if it was an infection by now right?
I just realized one thing
I never knew gravity would pull the oil down
For whatever reason I didn't make the connection lol
So anyway, I would experience very minor pip with the 300 but i would always have pip that's much lower than the spot I pinned
So I'm thinking "I don't remember pinning this low, but I'll make sure I pin higher next time"
So this time with the 500, I pinned in the fatty part of my shoulder. I still thought I hit the muscle, but it's more possible that I just injected into fat.
I understand that it isn't absorbed as well through fat
Could me pinning into fat along with the high concentration be my issue?
Sent you a PM.
Dema
Subscriber
That's some horrible advice bro..... What happens when you put a vial of test in a freezer? Now what do you think will happen when you ice oil in you arm...
Heat and some ibprofen.... Never ice
xy5jn0
New Member
By this point the solution is gone and the crystals are already there. You're not going to lower your body temp anywhere near freezer temps. I've tried heat. Total bro science.
Post-Injection Inflammatory Reaction - Health Library
Nieves
New Member
Add 100% filtered/ Sterile Grape Seed Oil to injection... For example 1 cc pharmacom test 500 also add 1 cc Sterile GSO to syringe. Post some feedback if you try this... It's great man
xy5jn0
New Member
I am with you on that OG, I couldn't wait to try BD test400 or sus 300, OMG big knots and crippling pip, FUCK THAT- I was very happy when those 2 vials were empty.. .I will stick to good Ole regular test thank you. But, Test1000 that was another story.. .lmfao
No don't ice it.
Dema beat me to it. Don't ice it.
Said hormone has a melting point, which means it melts at a certain temp which has a minimal temp. What do you think would happen if you lower the temp below the melting point of said hormone? Bro science or whatever you want to call it, but I say lowering the temp below the melting point would not allow it to melt.....I call it common sense.
The first time I pinned test prop subq I thought I had an infection, abscess and abnormally high PIP. The injection site turned red, warm to touch and golf ball size lump. It took almost 14 days for all symptoms to alleviate.
You might have pinned partially subq and partially IM.
Did the PIP go all the way away yet?
Yes all pip is gone and all is well
Continuing cycle as normal with 300
planedriver
New Member
What are you gonna do with your left over 500?
fatniggaleeroy
Member
When I pin their Test 500 in my glutes, I have almost no pip. When I pin it in my quads, I can literally see and feel a solid lump for days and I limp around like a little bitch.
BigNick002
New Member
I Just pinned some pharmacom test e 500 on monday, I have similar symptoms. Its not all that red, but definitely swollen up and feels alot more solid then my other shoulder. Also still a decent amount of pip and feels like sunburn when i touch it, and kinda looks like sunburn as well meaning when you touch it you can see the spot you touch turn white.
Any idea if its just the high concentration or infection? Thanks guys
Any idea if its just the high concentration or infection? Thanks guys
Nobody ever reported an infection or anything like that while using our products. We're present on 11 boards and active since 2008.
Did you read our warning for the 500mg esters?
WARNING: if you are going to use a high concentrated drug for the first time, we highly recommend to inject only ½ ml to check the body reaction and to prevent possible side effects, which can include post injection pain (PIP), high body temperature, lumps, etc.
Less than 20% can properly tolerate 500-600mg esters. You all seen our lab results, Pharmacom really has the advertised concentration from the label in the vial.
High concentrated esters used for the first time may cause test flu, fever for 1-2 days, pip and lumps.
Also, shoulder area is not that indicated for high concentrated esters.
You could also warm up the vial before injecting and dilute the oil.
pin with another compound to dilute.
Fuck man, I switched over to the Sus-500 from the E-500. The pip was nothing, but I think I got Test flu.
I'd wake up in the morning shaking, hot and cold. Had to have a warm bath to get my body functioning in the morning.
You should also be careful where you inject. I found when I try to go on the edge of a muscle it goes in smooth, but swells up a bit. When I go in the mid area of the muscle, things go smooth.
But I love it!
I'd wake up in the morning shaking, hot and cold. Had to have a warm bath to get my body functioning in the morning.
You should also be careful where you inject. I found when I try to go on the edge of a muscle it goes in smooth, but swells up a bit. When I go in the mid area of the muscle, things go smooth.
But I love it!
BigNick002
New Member
Alright thanks Darius, I should be fine in a few days I guess. I'll let you know if otherwise
