Pip from eo oil??

[Eman45]

Hey guys just curious if any one has had a bad reaction to eo oil. Got my boy using alpha pharma test cyp. Complains every shot hurts for some time glute or shoulder. His first cycle so my thoughts were he wasn’t pinning correctly. He had a buddy that issuing gear pin him and he said same shit. So I was wondering if it’s possible he is having a bad reaction the the carrier oil?

 

[Evom1]

Could be For sure

 

[Eman45]

Could be For sure

If this is so. Is it possible that he isn’t absorbing the test as he should be??

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey guys just curious if any one has had a bad reaction to eo oil. Got my boy using alpha pharma test cyp. Complains every shot hurts for some time glute or shoulder. His first cycle so my thoughts were he wasn’t pinning correctly. He had a buddy that issuing gear pin him and he said same shit. So I was wondering if it’s possible he is having a bad reaction the the carrier oil?

As Ive mentioned on several occasions, it would behoove folk to stick with FDA approved oils used by Phama

How is an EO (essential oil) defined ? Just asking bc the numbers and the adverse effects vary widely depending upon the definition and the EO concoction.

If Alpha resaler can't tell you what is in their EOs, then what does that tell you about what is in his/their products!

That being said bc most medicinal oils are chemically non-reactive and as such are readily absorbed, I'd suggest you look at the GEAR itself bc
the same can not be said for much of what UGLs use to enhance product solubility.

JIM

 

[m314]

This EO is ethyl oleate, commonly used with higher concentration AAS oils.

Ethyl oleate - Wikipedia

I'm about to use it along with grapeseed oil in my first homebrew batch of DHB cyp. It's supposed to improve solubility and help prevent the DHB from crashing out of solution.

I haven't had a bad reaction to it, but I've read that some people have. Too much BA or BB could also cause post injection pain with test cyp. I'm expecting some amount of PIP with DHB cyp, but not that much.

 

[Dr JIM]

This EO is ethyl oleate, commonly used with higher concentration AAS oils.

Ethyl oleate - Wikipedia

I'm about to use it along with grapeseed oil in my first homebrew batch of DHB cyp. It's supposed to improve solubility and help prevent the DHB from crashing out of solution.

I haven't had a bad reaction to it, but I've read that some people have. Too much BA or BB could also cause post injection pain with test cyp. I'm expecting some amount of PIP with DHB cyp, but not that much.

EO is infrequently used by Pharma most of that on behalf of compounding pharmacies, bc of adverse effects.

 

[Dr JIM]

This EO is ethyl oleate, commonly used with higher concentration AAS oils.

Ethyl oleate - Wikipedia

I'm about to use it along with grapeseed oil in my first homebrew batch of DHB cyp. It's supposed to improve solubility and help prevent the DHB from crashing out of solution.

I haven't had a bad reaction to it, but I've read that some people have. Too much BA or BB could also cause post injection pain with test cyp. I'm expecting some amount of PIP with DHB cyp, but not that much.

Your are describing what I referred to earlier, the use of speciality oils or other additives to enhance solubility. The literature is replete with adverse reactions to Ethyl Oleate, much of it being concentration dependent!

Brewing multiple solvents, preservatives, emulsifiers is asking for complications IME.

I should also add as of 2014 EO is NOT FDA approved for injection!

For these reasons I'd advise Meso members avoid ANY AAS in which EO is the solvent !

 

[Savagesteve]

EO pip for me was brutal even after mixing it with another compound that didn’t cause any pip at all by itself. What I’m curious OP is why the cyp has EO in it? Higher concentration?

 

[Kakarot]

Some can't take Ethel Oleate theirs a few on here that cant. Was some good info posted towards the front of the sqs source thread here a year or so ago. I've used it with zero issues super smooth for me but probably 10% of guys have issues with it (pulled % out of my ass so don't quote me on that).

 

[Test_Subject]

I don't react well to EO at all. It causes me crippling PIP that lasts for days. I had some NPP with 10% EO and I barely got through the cycle.

I have the best luck with GSO, MCT and CSO.

 

[Kakarot]

I don't react well to EO at all. It causes me crippling PIP that lasts for days. I had some NPP with 10% EO and I barely got through the cycle.

I have the best luck with GSO, MCT and CSO.

That's why like @Dr JIM said it's best for sources to stick with oils and solvents that are readily used by pharmaceutical companies. I've yet to hear of anyone having issues with gso and a little ba and bb.

 

[Dr JIM]

That's why like @Dr JIM said it's best for sources to stick with oils and solvents that are readily used by pharmaceutical companies. I've yet to hear of anyone having issues with gso and a little ba and bb.

And there are several other options used by Pharma.

Yet some seem to believe they are more knowledgeable than the chemists at Big Pharma who after DECADES of ligitimate experimentation, not only formulated many of the anabolic solvents in use today but did so with the intent of limiting adverse effects.

As an aside, I know some UGLs are claiming a few of their more specialized products require the use of specialized or essential oils to enhance efficacy or solubility.

Yet it’s no coincidence proprietary qualifiers of this nature are often used to justify higher priced PEDs, and in no way ensures the buyer is purchasing a higher quality product with fewer side effects.

It’s also no coincidence UGLs
understand the use of terms such as “new and improved”, designer or specialized sells MORE product!

JIM