Pipless Test400?

[mai90]

ended up doing following two test batches & both smooth af
1) testD 400 1.5/25 (MCT)
2) testD 200/testC 200 1.5/30 (MCT/Castor blend - 60/40)

the one with castor is a touch thicker but still perfectly fine to pin with a slin pin.

Going to jab 2ml of each into my delts with a 25g before I go kickboxing today will report back.

 

[mai90]

Put 2ml of the TD400 in my right delt and the TC/TD 200/200 in my left. Absolutely poor technique on injection on my left delt.

6 hours post injection, a kickboxing session and a little bit of grappling. My delts are about the only thing that aren't hurting.

 

[Gemini Bandit]

Put 2ml of the TD400 in my right delt and the TC/TD 200/200 in my left. Absolutely poor technique on injection on my left delt.

6 hours post injection, a kickboxing session and a little bit of grappling. My delts are about the only thing that aren't hurting.

2ML of 400mg/ml per delt? so 1.6g of test in one go?

 

[mai90]

2ML of 400mg/ml per delt? so 1.6g of test in one go?

I wouldn't advocate anyone does that and religiously preach safe use and try and teach people in my area sage dosages.

I also don't care too much about myself and the locals are constantly having a go at me for it.

 

[DinoBB76]

2ML of 400mg/ml per delt? so 1.6g of test in one go?

2 ml test D = 800mg

in 1 G a test without ester is 600mg

not a big amount if you are a big guys

but i can confirm , i always have a hard lump and pip with Test E and C , but with Test D , pip is ZERO , i can put 3ml in a single shot and zero pain zero pip

2 injection a week for a stable relase (but 1 is great like EQ or DECA) , so if you search a high dose without problem Test D is a key

 

[Gemini Bandit]

I wouldn't advocate anyone does that and religiously preach safe use and try and teach people in my area sage dosages.

I also don't care too much about myself and the locals are constantly having a go at me for it.

I'm not judging dude, I pump a gram of test D a week just not all in one go

2 ml test D = 800mg

in 1 G a test without ester is 600mg

not a big amount if you are a big guys

He said 2ml per side so 1600mg and I think you mean 1g of Test with D ester is 600mg (620 to be exact)

Still 1600mg of D is still nearly a gram available. that's not a lot but a lot for a single shot IMO.

 

[Yohji666]

I recently made a batch of test E 400 but the pip is crazy at 2%/20%. Would adding in higher BB reduce pip or more carrier to dilute. No crashing externally of the batch

 

[Sampei]

I recently made a batch of test E 400 but the pip is crazy at 2%/20%. Would adding in higher BB reduce pip or more carrier to dilute. No crashing externally of the batch

Dilute it, adding more BB will not do much. It could be just the raw and the pip will be there no matter what

 

[Yohji666]

Dilute it, adding more BB will not do much. It could be just the raw and the pip will be there no matter what

Thanks fella. Is there a pip free formula for t400 e? It’s a super common thing on the ug products and it’s relatively pip free but there’s nothing I’ve found over the last 4 months for it in homebrew bar “dont do it”. Are they using EO or G or am I missing something. Raw same lab as primo raw I’ve done multiple runs no problem

 

[Sampei]

Thanks fella. Is there a pip free formula for t400 e? It’s a super common thing on the ug products and it’s relatively pip free but there’s nothing I’ve found over the last 4 months for it in homebrew bar “dont do it”. Are they using EO or G or am I missing something. Raw same lab as primo raw I’ve done multiple runs no problem

Buddy test E RAWS are having issue in the last probably 6+ years even more. They can be pippy as hell even at 250mg.

You need to brew it at lower concentration like 300mg and check if it's pip free or not..if it's pip free it means your raws at the moment are ok and it's the concentration if it's not pip free you have your answer.

Test E RAWS that are good now can be bad in few months as well.

Just don't buy test E ever again

You don't need no EO or Guaiacol for test E 400mg xD

 

[mai90]

Test E RAWS that are good now can be bad in few months as well.

I didn't know this. I have some "good" test e raws.

I have them stored like this.
Inside a food bag.
Put food bag into vacuum bag with O² absorber and moisture absorber (both outside the food bag but inside the vac bag)
Vacuum seal and store in a cool dark place.

Do you think they'll stay good?

 

[Exhortae]

I didn't know this. I have some "good" test e raws.

I have them stored like this.
Inside a food bag.
Put food bag into vacuum bag with O² absorber and moisture absorber (both outside the food bag but inside the vac bag)
Vacuum seal and store in a cool dark place.

Do you think they'll stay good?

It has been know that late test e raws can be good the first use and then start to go bad.

You will have to try.

 

[mai90]

It has been know that late test e raws can be good the first use and then start to go bad.

You will have to

I was curious about very long term storage. I got them about 7 months ago.

Last time I made a batch 2 months ago they were still good. Need to make some more in a week or 2.

 

[Sampei]

I didn't know this. I have some "good" test e raws.

I have them stored like this.
Inside a food bag.
Put food bag into vacuum bag with O² absorber and moisture absorber (both outside the food bag but inside the vac bag)
Vacuum seal and store in a cool dark place.

Do you think they'll stay good?

You can store it perfectly and it will still go bad or not randomly. Same for the test E raw fresh, it can be PIPless or can be pippy as hell from.the start.

It's the test E raw the problem, during manufacturing process a carbolic acid ester is left in the raw as an impurity and fuck up the raw

So if your test E RAWS are few months old it could be anything

 

[Yohji666]

You can store it perfectly and it will still go bad or not randomly. Same for the test E raw fresh, it can be PIPless or can be pippy as hell from.the start.

It's the test E raw the problem, during manufacturing process a carbolic acid ester is left in the raw as an impurity and fuck up the raw

So if your test E RAWS are few months old it could be anything

I’ll contact supplier and see what they say. It was just pre cny so assuming they were trying get rid of old stock

Have seen your posts on here for a while and followed your thread. Appreciate the input

Recipe wise do you think the 2%/20% is adequate for a pipless end product? I seen people adding benzyl salycate to reduce pip also. I’ll dilute this down to 300mg and report back

 

[mai90]

You can store it perfectly and it will still go bad or not randomly. Same for the test E raw fresh, it can be PIPless or can be pippy as hell from.the start.

It's the test E raw the problem, during manufacturing process a carbolic acid ester is left in the raw as an impurity and fuck up the raw

So if your test E RAWS are few months old it could be anything

Thanks. Really good to know that it might just go bad at some point

 

[Sampei]

I’ll contact supplier and see what they say. It was just pre cny so assuming they were trying get rid of old stock

Have seen your posts on here for a while and followed your thread. Appreciate the input

Recipe wise do you think the 2%/20% is adequate for a pipless end product? I seen people adding benzyl salycate to reduce pip also. I’ll dilute this down to 300mg and report back

BB doesn't reduce PIP unless your solution keep crashing and you injecting crashed product xD

In that case more BB will make it not crash. If you have a clear oil the issue is not in the recipe it's in the raw or concentration. Dilute it down and report back

 

[Yohji666]

BB doesn't reduce PIP unless your solution keep crashing and you injecting crashed product xD

In that case more BB will make it not crash. If you have a clear oil the issue is not in the recipe it's in the raw or concentration. Dilute it down and report back

No worries. It was my understanding that the gear is crashing internally but is stable at room temp. This is what I’ve gleaned from reading other posts similar so the bb would stabilise it internally at a higher volume, that was my thoughts.

Will still dilute it down anyway tonight and hit a test run once it’s filtered

If you have a recipe for test E 400 I’d appreciate it. Or any critique on the 2/20% recipe I used via the calculator

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

No worries. It was my understanding that the gear is crashing internally but is stable at room temp. This is what I’ve gleaned from reading other posts similar so the bb would stabilise it internally at a higher volume, that was my thoughts.

Will still dilute it down anyway tonight and hit a test run once it’s filtered

If you have a recipe for test E 400 I’d appreciate it. Or any critique on the 2/20% recipe I used via the calculator

Melting point of test e is 34-39 degrees Celsius.


Body is warmer than room temperature. No reason or it to crash inside.

 

[Yohji666]

Melting point of test e is 34-39 degrees Celsius.


Body is warmer than room temperature. No reason or it to crash inside.

No worries was only hypothesising by what others are saying on other threads