LescoBrandon
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most of the people who use sarms are teenagers who use tik tok
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
planning 4th cycle
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1) they used 0,3ml, from what i see testosterone is usually available in concentration between 100 and 250mg/ml... and used in dosages of about 250/500mg per week (so about 1 to 2 ml for 250mg/ml vials)... is the deltoid viable for 2ml IM?
If you were going to run 500mg per week you would do 1ml 2x per week. You have two delts, two glutes, two quads all of which can take 1ml just fine
2) assuming I'm right handed, since the injection is done only once a week, is it needed to rotate the site of injection (1 week right and the next week left, like i have been doing, but when i had to take injections ED for 5/7 days like for cortisone)?
Monday left glute or delt or quad
Thursday right glute or delt or quad
3) I've been trying to touch the acromion with my fingers, I'm not sure i did identify the exact point, does the site of injection absolutely needs to be 2 fingers below, or if i aim for the middle of the lateral delt I will be g2g?
Glute or quad would be easier but just Google where to delt injection and the pics are pretty easy to understand
4) in case i wanted to test it first, to see if I'm capable of. How do i go? Get a syring and inject me some physiological solution or cortisone (i have both betametasone and metilprednisolone)? I have heard of people "practicing with pillows", have u heard about this before?
You could just order sterile grape seed oil off Amazon along with some 3cc syringes and 25g x1" needles
5) It's not that I'm a total beginner at giving injection, because when my dog was sick my vet trained me to give her subcutaneous injections (that drug could have been given both IM or subcutaneous but he trained me for subcutaneous as it was easier), because she had to take 7 in total... now for subcutaneous in dogs, i pulled some skin from her back, aimed in the middle between my thumb and index finger, and plunged the needle 90°... now at a certain point u can feel a change in resistance, and that's when the needle has gone through the skin and reached the fat tissue, that's when u inject the drug, slowly... after u have done u remove the needle quickly. And massage the area (only a little bit). What's the feel when u give IM? is the change in resistance something that only happens in dogs (maybe due to thicker skin or something like that)?
This may sound rude but if you are fat enough to notice a change in resistance, you need to lean out before using anything. Just swab the area, jab the needle in, aspirate, inject, pull out, apply pressure and massage for a minute
If you were going to run 500mg per week you would do 1ml 2x per week. You have two delts, two glutes, two quads all of which can take 1ml just fine
2) assuming I'm right handed, since the injection is done only once a week, is it needed to rotate the site of injection (1 week right and the next week left, like i have been doing, but when i had to take injections ED for 5/7 days like for cortisone)?
Monday left glute or delt or quad
Thursday right glute or delt or quad
3) I've been trying to touch the acromion with my fingers, I'm not sure i did identify the exact point, does the site of injection absolutely needs to be 2 fingers below, or if i aim for the middle of the lateral delt I will be g2g?
Glute or quad would be easier but just Google where to delt injection and the pics are pretty easy to understand
4) in case i wanted to test it first, to see if I'm capable of. How do i go? Get a syring and inject me some physiological solution or cortisone (i have both betametasone and metilprednisolone)? I have heard of people "practicing with pillows", have u heard about this before?
You could just order sterile grape seed oil off Amazon along with some 3cc syringes and 25g x1" needles
5) It's not that I'm a total beginner at giving injection, because when my dog was sick my vet trained me to give her subcutaneous injections (that drug could have been given both IM or subcutaneous but he trained me for subcutaneous as it was easier), because she had to take 7 in total... now for subcutaneous in dogs, i pulled some skin from her back, aimed in the middle between my thumb and index finger, and plunged the needle 90°... now at a certain point u can feel a change in resistance, and that's when the needle has gone through the skin and reached the fat tissue, that's when u inject the drug, slowly... after u have done u remove the needle quickly. And massage the area (only a little bit). What's the feel when u give IM? is the change in resistance something that only happens in dogs (maybe due to thicker skin or something like that)?
This may sound rude but if you are fat enough to notice a change in resistance, you need to lean out before using anything. Just swab the area, jab the needle in, aspirate, inject, pull out, apply pressure and massage for a minute
well i think i'll go back to my idea of not doing injections for now, i asked those questions because the delt (the one used in the video) is much smaller than the glutes (glutes can take 5,5ml no prob)..
What i described was my sensation when pinning my dog (a siberian husky, and she's not fat, she's average i'd say).
like i said i did educate myself on everything that seemed viable.
I never considered pinning viable, even tho lots of people suggested it already.
I uderstand testosterone is bioidentical and will work better than every other compound (my total test as a natty was 520 ng/dL btw in a normal range from 250 to 900), but sometimes the cons outweigh the pros.
I can't and won't risk going to court.
The most that can happen with sarms is that they will seize the package and destroy it, with steroids there're huge fines and from 6 months to 3 year of prison (usually dismissed due to overcrowded prisons, but will still taint my record forever).
GuerillaPete
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Just backload some slin pins or get the ones that have detachable needles hit 1ml each shoulder per week, bin the sarms and thank me later .
Ok, then just wait till you're ready for gear. Don't bother with sarms
Just giving you options. I would Not put 5.5ml in your glutes. They would not take it "no prob" unless you had some seriously massive glutes
I didn't say your dog was fat. I implied there'd be no change in sensation pinning yourself as a human, one you break the skin, you're in
I wouldn't bother running mk2866 again but I already had a positive experience with rad140
that's already in the past, when i got pulmonitis, prescribed by a doctor and administered by a nurse (Rocefin/ceftriaxone 3,5ml and bentelan/betametasone 2ml)... looks scary but ceftriaxone alone is a lot worse as the bentelan "dilutes" the antibiotic...
ok i was asking because when i pinned her that change was both helpful but also kind of like scary each time. from your comment i thought u didn't understand i was talking about my dog.
Fautquejyaille
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Hayes88
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Gotta agree with most here and go with a test cycle if you indeed are of age. However, depending how lean you are you can get away so easy with injections of just test since we are talking such small pins.
There are tons of sources that can supply you, but the GF issue is something you gotta talk out first. Not worth loosing someone for separation of quads lol
I have swapped from the damn harpoons I was always recommended to just insulin needles. Fill the harpoon, inject in the back of insulin pump, close and push out air, inject in pec, lat, quad or delt.
No pain, no accumulation in fat, goes in a second. That can be a great start to "learn" pinning and not shitting your pants.
I know guys who are monsters in the ring taking punches for a living, but scream seeing a needle or a bee lol... We are have odd fears.
If you want, you can combine that with a Sarm.
BUT! Read and read again, no damn bro-science, please understand what you put in and what specifically it does and why, and how to prepare for potential sides, as well as keeping track of all markers of health regularly. This includes nutrition, training regime and all as well.
The more you know, the faster you will see results in a healthier manner. I grow MUCH more on a lower dose cycle than I have ever done on a higher now when I actually start to understand my body, it has taken years and a lot of trial and error... And I am still a newb.
There are tons of sources that can supply you, but the GF issue is something you gotta talk out first. Not worth loosing someone for separation of quads lol
I have swapped from the damn harpoons I was always recommended to just insulin needles. Fill the harpoon, inject in the back of insulin pump, close and push out air, inject in pec, lat, quad or delt.
No pain, no accumulation in fat, goes in a second. That can be a great start to "learn" pinning and not shitting your pants.
I know guys who are monsters in the ring taking punches for a living, but scream seeing a needle or a bee lol... We are have odd fears.
If you want, you can combine that with a Sarm.
BUT! Read and read again, no damn bro-science, please understand what you put in and what specifically it does and why, and how to prepare for potential sides, as well as keeping track of all markers of health regularly. This includes nutrition, training regime and all as well.
The more you know, the faster you will see results in a healthier manner. I grow MUCH more on a lower dose cycle than I have ever done on a higher now when I actually start to understand my body, it has taken years and a lot of trial and error... And I am still a newb.
combover
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You and @thicknuts should practice pinning each other's asses
I have used some pretty heavy bulking stacks of anabolics many years ago and just recently have tried some cycling with sarm orals and the gains and feeling are no joke I must say. So far less noticeable side effects and very fast acting and seriously crazy results though I plan to dabble with old school injectable anabolics again after cycling these for a while to compare. Just my experience no do respect intended.
vajsmentzer
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Bro, I'm on my first 500mg test cycle, pining is not that scary. I am using 25G but you can go even thinner up to 29G. Just don't be a sissy, it's just a inch of a needle, you won't even feel it. Also you don't even need to look at it while doing it, you can just turn your head other way and stick it in.
people still don't understand that the fear of needles is not the problem here, and for many other users as well.
i've undergone 2 EMG, where the doctors stuck long ass needles (3 or 4 inches for the one used on my legs i'd guess) within my quadriceps, triceps, forearm and calves, asking me to contract those muscles too. I watched every step as i was also curious about it.
In some cases i bled quite a lot too.
I've also had several stitches throughout the years (maremmano bite> forearm, rottweiler bite > forearm, hatchet injury > right shoulder, and plumbing injury > finger). Still watched while the doctors tied the stitches to "learn the knot".
If i were to self inject i would be very much more concerned about having a good visual than do it blindly.
The biggest concern for many is secrecy (imho).
it's very easy to hide orals amongst other supplements, but it's not as much easy to hide syringes. You won't be able to make any excuse.
and screwing up with the SELF injection is another telltale sign that would give the use of PEDs away.
There's also the fact that even if PEDs use would be discovered, many would be more likely to forgive and accept the use of orals than injectables (i know, it's because people are ignorant, but that's still a fact).
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phenominal34
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why would you ever contract your muscles with a long ass needle in them ??? Jesus the info from newbies on this site is getting Harder and harder to try to help or give advice.
that's what an EMG exam is about... they needles are not the same as for injection, they are not hollow, not so much thinner I'd say, but certainly a lot more flexible... and they are long, much longer than the needles for 1 to 20cc syringes.
the doctor will stick those long needles inside the muscle, alongside the fiber direction (so the angle is very low), then the machine will read the electrical signal between electrodes both at rest and during contraction, i suppose there's also some piezoelectric sensor (I've used some in physics lab at uni) integrated in the needle.
It sounds scarier than it is, for the most part it doesn't hurt (or i should say it's still bearable, even when contracting), unless the doctor makes a mistake (it happened a couple of times, and they had to remove the needle and relocate, in one occasion with a needle in my calf he hit a blood vessel and he had to change the sheet...).
In some exercises the doctor asks u to do he will push either the tip of ur feet or the tip of ur fingers and ask u to push against it.
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just increase the enclo 12.5mg up to 4 weeks
baked_cake
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I pin in my legs with a 27 gauge insulin syringe, the ones they pass out at the needle exchange for drug addicts. The tip is only like 1/2" long but i push it in hard until the skin is getting pushed in. In the videos they say to stretch the skin out before the injection, that probably helps with bleeding. I always just do my quads, it's a little painful but it's easy. I can do up to a full syringe which is 1CC/1ML.
Sorry this might be old news, just reading random posts.
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