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fodsod · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
Why one bolus dose? Do you know how long gh works or the active peak time? Why not split that AM/PM and get more active gh time over the day? Many would argue that for fat loss purposes, more than about 2iu at a time is a waste. There's at least one study showing higher IGF with a split dose versus bolus. Apparently, lot of elite level guys taking high amounts of gh are being instructed to space their gh out over the day, 3x dosing.

Please do us a favor and run your Gh as you've advised and post your blood work. I'm tired of hearing this theory being regurgitated.

I know at least 3 of us in this thread that are advanced users with a lot of experience that see great IGF levels via actual blood work taking a 5iu dose all at night. If we can do better splitting it up then great but prove it to us by doing it yourself and posting your results so we can compare your levels to what we see in ours.

G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
Please do us a favor and run your Gh as you've advised and post your blood work. I'm tired of hearing this theory being regurgitated.

I know at least 3 of us in this thread that are advanced users with a lot of experience that see great IGF levels via actual blood work taking a 5iu dose all at night. If we can do better splitting it up then great but prove it to us by doing it yourself and posting your results so we can compare your levels to what we see in ours.

I'm sorry guru. It's just that there is no science supporting bolus and some science supporting multiple dosing. The fundamental logic of bolus being superior makes no sense either when you just think of the active time over a 24hr period. Double the time of active gh in blood or not? Everybody is a loud mouth expert over her at meso. Problem is, it's one of the dumbest memberships I know of. Keep doing your 5iu bolus dose, clown town.

Metabolic effects of growth hormone administered subcutaneously once or twice daily to growth hormone deficient adults. - PubMed - NCBI

G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

Wunderpus said:
This review was fire.

Sorry, anyone that says fire automatically gets written off as a fucking retard wigger. Don't take it personal, pus.

Wunderpus · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
Sorry, anyone that says fire automatically gets written off as a fucking retard wigger. Don't take it personal, pus.

It was sarcasm, read his post, you fucking idiot. He was being sarcastic, and I carried it on. You're fucking retarded for not getting it. Not sorry, GI Bro.

mands said:
I do believe there is a correct way of doing so and that's providing personal experience and labs to back it up. Just not that gh is fire and blah blah blah.

G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

Wunderpus said:
It was sarcasm, read his post, you fucking idiot. He was being sarcastic, and I carried it on. You're fucking retarded for not getting it. Not sorry, GI Bro.

My bad, your use of sarcasm was dope, yo.

fodsod · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
I'm sorry guru. It's just that there is no science supporting bolus and some science supporting multiple dosing. The fundamental logic of bolus being superior makes no sense either when you just think of the active time over a 24hr period. Double the time of active gh in blood or not? Everybody is a loud mouth expert over her at meso. Problem is, it's one of the dumbest memberships I know of. Keep doing your 5iu bolus dose, clown town.

Metabolic effects of growth hormone administered subcutaneously once or twice daily to growth hormone deficient adults. - PubMed - NCBI

Let me take this one step further. We're talking about 5uis a day taken all at once. If it was say 10 ius then sure I'd split it up but not 5.

I'm not saying the science isn't there either. What I'm saying is prove to me that the hassle of taking that 5ius and splitting it up will yield a better result. Show me that splitting 5 uis up all day into little drops will give me a IGF result that is worth the trouble.

I posted blood work recently showing an increase of 70 in my IGF levels by adding MK-677 to the 5uis I was taking every night after 35 days. I had been on the GH for 5 months at that point. That's solid evidence that shows actual results. That's what I'm requesting. Show me something other than theory.

Wunderpus · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
My bad, your use of sarcasm was dope, yo.

I forgive you.

G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
Let me take this one step further. We're talking about 5uis a day taken all at once. If it was say 10 ius then sure I'd split it up but not 5.

I'm not saying the science isn't there either. What I'm saying is prove to me that the hassle of taking that 5ius and splitting it up will yield a better result. Show me that splitting 5 uis up all day into little drops will give me a IGF result that is worth the trouble.

I posted blood work recently showing an increase of 70 in my IGF levels by adding MK-677 to the 5uis I was taking every night after 35 days. I had been on the GH for 5 months at that point. That's solid evidence that shows actual results. That's what I'm requesting. Show me something other than theory.

The study trumps anecdotal observations of a slack jawed mouth breathing meathead. It is not theory. You're comparing a theory (your own) based on observations patched up with faulty reasoning, to a controlled study looking at IGF levels from split versus bolus. It doesn't get simpler than that. You can't even argue properly. You're the one proposing a baseless theory. I'm not sure I want to waste more time here on this. How about I just say you win, then will you shut the fuck up?

You win.

fodsod · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
The study trumps anecdotal observations of a slack jawed mouth breathing meathead. It is not theory. You're comparing a theory (your own) based on observations patched up with faulty reasoning, to a controlled study looking at IGF levels from split versus bolus. It doesn't get simpler than that. You can't even argue properly. You're the one proposing a baseless theory. I'm not sure I want to waste more time here on this. How about I just say you win, then will you shut the fuck up?

You win.

Now you're just being a dick. I said the science was there just that I'd like to see you (since you're quoting it) apply it in the real world we all live in doing what we do, how we do it.

No, I will not shut the fuck up. You want me to shut the fuck up. Go to the nearest mirror right now and take a pic of any pose you want showing upper and lower body and post it with today's date written on the mirror with your MESO name on it. That will show us if you know what you're talking about and if you're impressive then I'll gladly shut the fuck up.

Eman · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
Everybody is a loud mouth expert over her at meso. Problem is, it's one of the dumbest memberships I know of.

Thanks for stopping by to inform us of the loud mouths. Hadn't even noticed.

legendary · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
Please do us a favor and run your Gh as you've advised and post your blood work. I'm tired of hearing this theory being regurgitated.

I know at least 3 of us in this thread that are advanced users with a lot of experience that see great IGF levels via actual blood work taking a 5iu dose all at night. If we can do better splitting it up then great but prove it to us by doing it yourself and posting your results so we can compare your levels to what we see in ours.

I have bloods posted in labs on greys about 2-3 months ago

Mr.B66 · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
Sorry, anyone that says fire automatically gets written off as a fucking retard wigger. Don't take it personal, pus.

Hahahaha!!! Wait a fucking minute, first you call all meso member dumb and refer to us as clowns and yet your to fucking stupid to understand WP was joking LMFAO!!!! Who's the fucking clown now?

G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

Mr.B66 said:
Hahahaha!!! Wait a fucking minute, first you call all meso member dumb and refer to us as clowns and yet your to fucking stupid to understand WP was joking LMFAO!!!! Who's the fucking clown now?

I challenge all of you to a pose down. It ends here! Now!

Roger rabbit · Dec 28, 2016

G.I. Bro said:
I challenge all of you to a pose down. It ends here! Now!

Well, I will be interested in seeing this.... some bad mother fuckers on this board....

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G.I. Bro · Dec 28, 2016

Roger rabbit said:
Well, I will be interested in seeing this.... some bad mother fuckers on this board....

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I'm fucking around. I'm a PED nerd with an average gym rat physique, I don't compete. I'm going to stop fucking up PD'S thread. He's a great source for meditrope blacks and the official greys. Good rep. Good communication and t/a. Let's stop spamming up his thread boys!

Just Fish · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
Please do us a favor and run your Gh as you've advised and post your blood work. I'm tired of hearing this theory being regurgitated.

I know at least 3 of us in this thread that are advanced users with a lot of experience that see great IGF levels via actual blood work taking a 5iu dose all at night. If we can do better splitting it up then great but prove it to us by doing it yourself and posting your results so we can compare your levels to what we see in ours.

You said you did your injections at night. What time in the day was your blood test?

fodsod · Dec 28, 2016

Just Fish said:
You said you did your injections at night. What time in the day was your blood test?

Morning at 0730. Typical testing. Fasted. Running the sensitive version of the female hormone panel and IGF. On the most recent blood work I also tested for prolactin.

Just Fish · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
Morning at 0730. Typical testing. Fasted. Running the sensitive version of the female hormone panel and IGF. On the most recent blood work I also tested for prolactin.

I would love to see what your levels are at night before next pin. I think I'm going to try the 2 times a day approach. I'll post bloods in a month or so

fodsod · Dec 28, 2016

Just Fish said:
I would love to see what your levels are at night before next pin. I think I'm going to try the 2 times a day approach. I'll post bloods in a month or so

The science is there if you're running larger doses IMO I just don't see the return being that big of a difference at 5uis ED verses the hassle of dealing with splitting it up.

I'm definitely interested to see your split routine results though.

Just Fish · Dec 28, 2016

fodsod said:
The science is there if you're running larger doses IMO I just don't see the return being that big of a difference at 5uis ED verses the hassle of dealing with splitting it up.

I'm definitely interested to see your split routine results though.

If there is a chance you can get bloods as late as possible in day next time that would help verify that it is a waste to do the extra pin. I don't plan on going over 4iu per day. I am just trying to minimize the side effects. From my research it seems like morning injections are the favorite. I can't be tired all day though so I'm going to split it up

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