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[rutman]

I forgot a lot of people count the blacks as 15iu. I always run them as if they were 10iu.

I think when GH testing was going on, the blacks were consistently having close to 14iu per vial. They seem to be the most consistent GH out there for the money right now. I get bad sides in high doses of GH, so I try to dose as accurately as possible.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

You like them?

Yes. I'm running some greys I've had since last summer right now just to use them, but I'm going back to blacks after.

I think when GH testing was going on, the blacks were consistently having close to 14iu per vial. They seem to be the most consistent GH out there for the money right now. I get bad sides in high doses of GH, so I try to dose as accurately as possible.

I followed those threads as well and I agree. I never really went very high on dosage. 5iu (I guess 7.5iu technically) ED of blacks was the highest I went and my hands got pretty bad until I got used to it. I'm staying in the 2-3iu range right now because I don't have much left.

How high have you gone on dosage and what did you notice compared to lower doses?

Last year when I was running 5iu I was running 100mg ED of tren ace and 700mg/week of test cyp. I was bulking somewhat dirty and was gaining no fat that I could tell.

Even on 2-3iu/day and a cruise dose of test with diet on point the fat loss was very noticeable for me.

I'm really curious about the effects of 7-10iu/day with like a gram of test a week. Not really looking to run insulin with it as it doesn't suit my goals. I'm going to try to swing it later this year if I can afford it, even if it's just for a short time at that dose and back to a more modest dose after.

 

[Evom1]

Black tops gave me horrible CTS even at 1.5-2iu per day. Couldn't handle it. Running 4iu Grey's and its very mild CTS and altho I'm bulking right now, the fat loss is definitely noticeable

 

[Evom1]

Oh and as far as communication. It's like writing a letter to the dmv vs emailing Amazon customer support lol

 

[TorroXL]

Yes. I'm running some greys I've had since last summer right now just to use them, but I'm going back to blacks after.



I followed those threads as well and I agree. I never really went very high on dosage. 5iu (I guess 7.5iu technically) ED of blacks was the highest I went and my hands got pretty bad until I got used to it. I'm staying in the 2-3iu range right now because I don't have much left.

How high have you gone on dosage and what did you notice compared to lower doses?

Last year when I was running 5iu I was running 100mg ED of tren ace and 700mg/week of test cyp. I was bulking somewhat dirty and was gaining no fat that I could tell.

Even on 2-3iu/day and a cruise dose of test with diet on point the fat loss was very noticeable for me.

I'm really curious about the effects of 7-10iu/day with like a gram of test a week. Not really looking to run insulin with it as it doesn't suit my goals. I'm going to try to swing it later this year if I can afford it, even if it's just for a short time at that dose and back to a more modest dose after.

Shoot me a pm

 

[CherryChillin]

Anyone get bad cts on low dose black tops besides @Evom1 ?

How long did you run the blacks at that low dose before cts kicked in @Evom1

 

[rutman]

Yes. I'm running some greys I've had since last summer right now just to use them, but I'm going back to blacks after.



I followed those threads as well and I agree. I never really went very high on dosage. 5iu (I guess 7.5iu technically) ED of blacks was the highest I went and my hands got pretty bad until I got used to it. I'm staying in the 2-3iu range right now because I don't have much left.

How high have you gone on dosage and what did you notice compared to lower doses?

Last year when I was running 5iu I was running 100mg ED of tren ace and 700mg/week of test cyp. I was bulking somewhat dirty and was gaining no fat that I could tell.

Even on 2-3iu/day and a cruise dose of test with diet on point the fat loss was very noticeable for me.

I'm really curious about the effects of 7-10iu/day with like a gram of test a week. Not really looking to run insulin with it as it doesn't suit my goals. I'm going to try to swing it later this year if I can afford it, even if it's just for a short time at that dose and back to a more modest dose after.

I first started out with serostim for about 7 months, running 4iu per day. Sides were ridiculous for the first 3 months, and I started out at 2iu. From there I switched to greytops and started right off the bat at 4iu and got numbness again in my hands for a while, but I just kept rocking on at 4iu. Sides didn't last but a few weeks. Ran those for about 4 months and then switched to the blacks. Still taking 4iu and didn't get any sides when I switched to them. But I'm still seeing results as far as fat loss, or keeping the fat off. I just don't see any need at going any higher with my doses. I'd rather up my test or tren dose. That has a far greater effect on progress than upping the GH dosage, unless you add slin to the mix, which I won't.

 

[TorroXL]

I'm currently running Mk677. I'm experiencing cramping in my hands and forearms. Are these similar sides to GH?

 

[CherryChillin]

I first started out with serostim for about 7 months, running 4iu per day. Sides were ridiculous for the first 3 months, and I started out at 2iu. From there I switched to greytops and started right off the bat at 4iu and got numbness again in my hands for a while, but I just kept rocking on at 4iu. Sides didn't last but a few weeks. Ran those for about 4 months and then switched to the blacks. Still taking 4iu and didn't get any sides when I switched to them. But I'm still seeing results as far as fat loss, or keeping the fat off. I just don't see any need at going any higher with my doses. I'd rather up my test or tren dose. That has a far greater effect on progress than upping the GH dosage, unless you add slin to the mix, which I won't.

So, the sides will subside with time?

Kind of like a break up? Just give it time to heal lol

 

[Eman]

So, the sides will subside with time?

Kind of like a break up? Just give it time to heal lol

I was running 8iu a day for a while, no sides really... Maybe a little in the hands. I guess my hands fall asleep a little faster than they normally would off GH but I've been running growth for so long I have gotten used to it happening, doesn't phase me a bit.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I first started out with serostim for about 7 months, running 4iu per day. Sides were ridiculous for the first 3 months, and I started out at 2iu. From there I switched to greytops and started right off the bat at 4iu and got numbness again in my hands for a while, but I just kept rocking on at 4iu. Sides didn't last but a few weeks. Ran those for about 4 months and then switched to the blacks. Still taking 4iu and didn't get any sides when I switched to them. But I'm still seeing results as far as fat loss, or keeping the fat off. I just don't see any need at going any higher with my doses. I'd rather up my test or tren dose. That has a far greater effect on progress than upping the GH dosage, unless you add slin to the mix, which I won't.

I understand your spending a tremendous amount of money on GH now and you have been for some time. But considering your competing now and NOT using insulin doesnt it seem counterproductive to maximizing your potential?

 

[rutman]

I understand your spending a tremendous amount of money on GH now and you have been for some time. But considering your competing now and NOT using insulin doesnt it seem counterproductive to maximizing your potential?

In a way it probably is, but the dangers that come along with slin just isn't worth it for me. I'm not going pro anytime soon, lol, so the risk vs reward just doesn't add up.

It's not that much money really. I'm only running 4iu per day and after the show I'll drop it down to 3iu. About $110 a month which I think is worth it.

 

[Eman]

In a way it probably is, but the dangers that come along with slin jus isn't worth it for me. I'm not going pro anytime soon, lol, so the risk vs reward just doesn't add up.

I'd love to see what slin and GH would do to your physique my man, not trying to convince you or anything though. Just thinking it would be a VERY interesting addition at your level.

I respect your position on it though, more guys need to have that same attitude and stay safer.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

In a way it probably is, but the dangers that come along with slin just isn't worth it for me. I'm not going pro anytime soon, lol, so the risk vs reward just doesn't add up.

It's not that much money really. I'm only running 4iu per day and after the show I'll drop it down to 3iu. About $110 a month which I think is worth it.

I understand. I have a similar attitude toward insulin but im not spending GH money yet either and im not running grams and grams for months or whole segments of the year either.

All im saying is if you went with a full protocol it may allow you to run less of the actual AAS and for less time greatly reducing your risk by taking up another risk, insulin. Seems kinda the natural progression when you at your level

 

[CherryChillin]

I was running 8iu a day for a while, no sides really... Maybe a little in the hands. I guess my hands fall asleep a little faster than they normally would off GH but I've been running growth for so long I have gotten used to it happening, doesn't phase me a bit.

I'm just curious about this side, because my chest and back workouts are every 5 days and rely heavily on grip because I do supersets

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'm just curious about this side, because my chest and back workouts are every 5 days and rely heavily on grip because I do supersets

You should be all good. I'm a competitive powerlifter and even when my hands were all swollen and numb on 5iu daily my bench and deadlift were unaffected. I was very clumsy with loading my pins though, dropped quite a few because my fingers felt so weird. Eventually 5iu didn't affect my hands at all anyway.

 

[Evom1]

Anyone get bad cts on low dose black tops besides @Evom1 ?

How long did you run the blacks at that low dose before cts kicked in @Evom1

I tried 2iu for a week or two and then bumped to 3iu for a week, then 4iu and it was horrendous. Dropped it all together for a week and went back to 1.5iu....tried that for 3 weeks and it was just too much to handle. Got the Grey tops, bumped it up by 1iu every 10 days and the cts is very minimal and only when laying down

 

[rutman]

I understand. I have a similar attitude toward insulin but im not spending GH money yet either and im not running grams and grams for months or whole segments of the year either.

All im saying is if you went with a full protocol it may allow you to run less of the actual AAS and for less time greatly reducing your risk by taking up another risk, insulin. Seems kinda the natural progression when you at your level

If I were 10 years younger I'd seriously consider it, but I'm over 40 now, so I'm limited to how much size I can add at this point anyway. I'm following in your footsteps in 9 weeks big dog... Letting my body and organs recover for a while and see how much I can keep on 200mg a week for 6 months. Blast off again Jan 1 2018.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

If I were 10 years younger I'd seriously consider it, but I'm over 40 now, so I'm limited to how much size I can add at this point anyway. I'm following in your footsteps in 9 weeks big dog... Letting my body and organs recover for a while and see how much I can keep on 200mg a week for 6 months. Blast off again Jan 1 2018.

Should be right about at your physical maturity then
I dont buy the "limited" development thing. If you were 50 then yes.

 

[Eman]

I'm just curious about this side, because my chest and back workouts are every 5 days and rely heavily on grip because I do supersets

I'm the same as Perrin, I was a bit clumsy with certain things but my grip was never bad. I did notice my hands would get super pumped up and tired more easily doing certain things... Never really affected me though.