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occam

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This has been the worst day ever.......I hurt my neck for the 900th time this year.......it's a chronic thing with me. I am waiting on two packs, neither showed up.

Well as I was wincing and stretching my neck I had my left hand on my chest...somehow I felt something.......a little sensitivity.....fuck......a little bump.

Guys I've never had itchy nips, or noticed any swelling etc. I would have put myself in the "non-prone to gyno" class. A gram of prop a week in the past and nothing....750mg of tren a week in the past and nothing......what the hell?

I am not even "on" right now.....well actually I've been taking 20mg of M1T a day....I thought that it was worthless actually, I've noticed zero benefits from it.
I only continued with it because I thought I'd give it one more week to show me SOMETHING. Never thought for a second it could cause this.

What does Gyno feel like?

Here is what I feel......right nip only. Not very sensitive.....I'm rubbing it so hard in an attempt to discern the shape of the mass that I think it would feel sensitive even if there was nothing there.

Okay so with my finger on the nipple, I rub vertically and I feel a firm thing that runs horizontally longer than vertically...I can only feel it when I flex.


I've only been taking the M1T for two weeks........could this be something I have had from the past and just did not notice?

Could gyno progress to a firm mass in that short a time?

I've searched for info....and will keep doing so but wanted to get this up on the board to get some responses.

Damn....what a day.
 
you got it. you can feel it way better if you put your hand behind your head and stretch your elbow back and up. if you dont feel anything like itchy or sensitivity than its prob old. but dont tak hat to the bank.
 
Suddenly my avatar seems sickeningly ironic.

I'm not pretty enough to sport tit's.

More responses please.......and thanks Jay.
 
occam said:
Pinched as hard as I can.....nothing coming out.
Occam, I told you to get rid of the avtar, or atleast make those very nice tits stop moving! now I put a curse on you. I have no idea what to tell you bro I have no worries with gyno, well not yet, good luck
 
From some things Ive read, I would suggest taking nolva at 20-40mg/day for a few weeks. I had some sensitivity a little while back and after 2-3 weeks on nolva the sensativity was totally gone (with no reoccurence).
 
I've got the nolva coming overnight.

Femara, HCG and clomid are around for next run beginning in April but from what I can gather Nolva is best for gyno that is already presenting itself.

I need some more insight as to whether this is old tissue or recent development.

Not puffy....not itchy......not really sensitive......just a small hard lump.

I'm beginning to think this might be a pre-existing thing........


Thanks for the responses so far guys.
 
ramboj70 said:
Occam, I told you to get rid of the avtar, or atleast make those very nice tits stop moving! now I put a curse on you. I have no idea what to tell you bro I have no worries with gyno, well not yet, good luck


Well......I think I can give the avatar to you man......promise to lift the curse?

Seriously, since it affects you so, I'd be happy to let you have it bro.

Let me know.
 
i wouldn't worry about it. it sounds like nothing. if you're "off," go to the doc and see what it is. maybe it'e a tumor, my uncle has breast cancer. maybe the nolva will help. i'm taking 2.5 mg femera ed, and i still have bad gyno. mine just goes away every time i take a rest from test. i haven't come off for 8 months, but i still go back to normal when i take test outa the mix. niko
 
I'm don't trust myself at this point.......is it sensitive or am I just rubbing the hell out of it etc.

Nolva will be here in the a.m. Wed.

Have any of you had gyno progress to a firm lump in just a couple weeks?

Of all the shit that I've run how the hell can a little m1t bring this on?

That's what makes me think it might be old tissue thats at the most being aggravated. It is small, but damn, it couldn't be small enough to not be a concern.

More thought's gentlemen?

BTW-Thanks for the input so far........you guys are solid.
 
occam said:
I'm don't trust myself at this point.......is it sensitive or am I just rubbing the hell out of it etc.

That's what makes me think it might be old tissue thats at the most being aggravated. It is small, but damn, it couldn't be small enough to not be a concern.

That's probably what I'd guess, too. With your aforementioned ability to withstand reasonably high doses of known gyno-causing agents, it would seem that this is something from the past, making itself known for whatever reason. The body is a fickle thing and with chemicals, diet, and other factors at play, it is hard to say when--or even why or how--something will happen.

Hang in there, bro, and hit that Nolvadex hard when it shows up. Sweating gyno is perhaps THE worst experience life has to offer. I was once caught with only Clomid during a heavy Sustanon cycle--my Nolvadex source flaked on me--and feeling things get sensitive and knowing I had only Clomid to fight it was absolutely miserable. Like yourself, I rubbed the hell out of my chest, tried looking in the mirror from every conceivable angle, and also tried to envison what life would be like with tits (or how much that surgery would cost, and how long it'd keep me out of the gym).

The Nolvadex will get you squared away, though. I get extremely puffy nipples during a cycle, even when I dose up to 80 mg a day of Nolvadex. But that goes away when I come off, thus proving that the Nolvadex did its job while I was on. I'm confident things will work out for you, too. As I said, there's nothing worse than dealing with a creeping case of gyno. I usually start my Nolvadex therapy a week before adding in the testosterones, and when I feel the Nolvadex working on the target tissues in the breast, I start to freak out and think I'm getting bitch tits...and I haven't even started the test yet!

Best of luck.

GG
 
Thanks man......that helps. I'm trying not to be a cry baby......just kinda scary when your not even on.

BTW-When the hell are the Cardinals going to get some pitching?
 
occam said:
Thanks man......that helps. I'm trying not to be a cry baby......just kinda scary when your not even on.

BTW-When the hell are the Cardinals going to get some pitching?

You're welcome. Don't ever feel like a cry baby; what you're going through is a very real, very stressful time, but as mentioned, I think you'll get through it and be tougher and wiser for it. I've posted here with similar concerns and appreciated the help everyone gave me. This board is by far the best I've been to; I honestly think you can ask any question without worrying about being flamed or ridiculed.

As for the RedBirds, I am just happy they locked up Pujols. The Cardinals' pitching stinks, especially when you consider the arms the Astros and Cubs have lined up, but hopefully we can put up eight runs a game and counter the otherwise weak pitching staff.

GG
 
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