currently on my first cycle worked up from 200 to 350 test over 10 weeks. .25 arimidex eod i have no nipple sensitivity .25 2x wk i have very little. Since starting dutasteride even .25 eod i still have very sensitive nipples. i dont think this is from high estrogen because i have no other symptoms. on .25 eod i had 2000 test 46 e2(before dut). could it be prolactin or did dut really just cause that much aromatization? if i come off it goes away but within 2 days of starting it comes back. i may try 50-100 p5p a day. i dont want to have to crush my estrogen just to avoid gyno and am trying to find another way to stop the formation of gyno. any hekp appreciated
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gyno on dutasteride
BigDadd7
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Short answer- yes. Dutasteride prevents the conversion of testosterone to dht. More testosterone means more available to convert to estrogen. That's all theoretical.
Real world? It's different for everyone.
Real world? It's different for everyone.
Yea I know blocking dht ramps estrogen up just would be surprised if it would be so much that doubling my e2 dose would still cause nipple sensitivity. I guess only consistency with dosaging and bloodwork will tell me whats happening. .5 avodart daily + .25 arim eod should keep me from getting serious gyno and then i can follow up with bloodwork to see if e2 is high or if prolactin is the cause or if neither it may be something completely different. Not too worried about gyno tbh worst case scenario i just get the surgery years down the line. Hair on the other hand…
Yea I know blocking dht ramps estrogen up just would be surprised if it would be so much that doubling my arimidex dose would still cause nipple sensitivity. I guess only consistency with dosaging and bloodwork will tell me whats happening. .5 avodart daily + .25 arim eod should keep me from getting serious gyno and then i can follow up with bloodwork to see if e2 is high or if prolactin is the cause or if neither it may be something completely different. Not too worried about gyno tbh worst case scenario i just get the surgery years down the line. i
doubling my ai dose*
To add another hypothetical with no research to back it -- DHT, purportedly, can combat the effects of e2. So if DHT is lowered, the same e2 blood value might have more of an effect.
Point being, you might have to play with the ratio of DHT to e2. As a wise BigDaddy7 once said, "it's different for everyone."
Yea definitely I saw a thread on here of a guy saying he had more gyno symptoms at the same e2 on Dut
Most people overdo dutasteride. Half life is extremely long, it’s also extremely effective so you end up nuking DHT which is highly androgenic and protects against estrogen side effects by keeping the androgen/estrogen ratio steady. I’m not sure if the “ratio” term is accurate science but anecdotally thousands confirm you need a certain amount of androgen load to avoid estrogen side effects.
If you dosed dutasteride any more than .5mg more than once a week or bi weekly, you nuked it. Finasteride can be taken daily but it’s night and day difference in pharmacokinetics. Duta dosing should be .5mg every two weeks but ideally get your DHT levels tested to see baseline. You’ll want to stop the duta if you haven’t already. Give it 5 half lives to clear. Yes, 25 weeks. Proviron in the mean time and keep e2 dialed the fuck in ~20s pg/ml
If you dosed dutasteride any more than .5mg more than once a week or bi weekly, you nuked it. Finasteride can be taken daily but it’s night and day difference in pharmacokinetics. Duta dosing should be .5mg every two weeks but ideally get your DHT levels tested to see baseline. You’ll want to stop the duta if you haven’t already. Give it 5 half lives to clear. Yes, 25 weeks. Proviron in the mean time and keep e2 dialed the fuck in ~20s pg/ml
i hopped on pharma dut got a perscription for free from dr b instead of ssa and no more nipple pain. weird but obviously my perscription isnt fake so idk ig im good now
spacesooot
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yea duta kinda raised my estrogen. had to start taking asin more often. kinda in a balance now.
on 350 test .25 arim eod and .5 dut daily. seems to be a good spot but definitely a bit more estrogenic than before on no dut and the same ai dose
