PL's test : intense swelling and pain

[Oxandrin]

Do the following:

1. put heating pack on the hard abcess
2. Put icy hot on it
3. take very hot showers and or baths
4. try to massage it
5. take advil and aspirin to thin the blood
6. don't worry it goes away in 7-10 days
7. next time you shoot cut it with other oils (deca or eq )

 

[Oxandrin]

and i had the same experience with the 400mg/ml TE from PL

 

[bigkb]

did you use proper injection procedure? It's possible that you hit a portal vein, which would cause the pain and swelling, or that you have an infection.

CA
Yes, I used proper procedure. I also injected very slowly...couldn't inject fast anyway, because I used a 23g. I aspirated no blood, and no blood came out after withdrawing from the muscle. The injection was a breeze actually.

Phreezer
You're right, I think I'll just stick to lower dosed test from now on. The reason I wanted to use the 500 is to keep injection frequency low to avoid scar tissue build-up. I have too much built up in the glutes.

Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate it.

KB

 

[REDSTAR]

EXACTLY!!! This is why I only do 250mg-300mg/ml now MAXIMUM. But some guys are stupid fools and think, "wow, I have the 900mg/ml stuff, ain't that grand?".

Phil

why buy 500mg/ml enanthate if you have to cut it 1-1 with cottonseed oil to lesson the pain? Seems to me that you'd be better served by just buying the 250mg/ml stuff to begin with.

 

[morepain]

I just don't get the facination with high dose gear, OK you have 500 mg enanthate, great! Now you have to cut it with sterile oil 1:1 to be able to bear it, gee you have just created 250mg enanthate 20ml, which he also sells at the same price as the 10ml 500.

 

[C A]

I just don't get the facination with high dose gear, OK you have 500 mg enanthate, great! Now you have to cut it with sterile oil 1:1 to be able to bear it, gee you have just created 250mg enanthate 20ml, which he also sells at the same price as the 10ml 500.

True, but if it doesn't hurt you or you don't care about the pain, there are certainly benefits.

 

[The Bruiser]

I don't understand why everyone keeps talking about cutting with sterile oil. What if you take 1/2ml of test500 and 1/2ml of Deca 300mg/ml and 1/2ml of EQ 400mg/ml and 1/2ml of tren enanthate 300mg/ml(or whatever strength it's available in). By doing the above, I just cut my test, was able to get my other AAS into the same injection, kept the volume of the injection to two ml's and maybe even saved a couple bucks if the higher concentration gear was cheaper than twice the gear at half the strength. Make sense? So maybe you don't want to do all the drugs I mentioned above, but you get the point, which is you can always cut the high strength stuff with something other than sterile oil. And if all you plan on shooting is the test, then don't buy the high concentration test. Plain and simple. But the above example is what I plan on shooting EOD on my next cycle, and I sure as hell don't want to have to shoot 4ml EOD (using lower concentration gear). Get my drift? I don't mean to flame anybody, just giving an example of why some of us might prefer to buy higher concentration gear.

 

[Southernjuice]

I turned a few people onto his gear and wish i had'nt...they were using his oil based winny and their legs looked deformed afterwards for several days.I don't know what he does with his gear but he can keep it.Now I have used his stuff and personally it never bothered me however I watched one of them do an injection to make sure it was done correctly and sure enough his leg was red as hell in a day and looked like a softball where he had injected.

 

[kbone]

I think it varies from individual to individual. I'm in the middle of my first cycle ever of his 500 test and 500 EQ in 1:1 and have had very little pain, maybe some slight soreness the next day but that is it. I shoot in the glutes and warm it up thoroughly before injecting. This is my first cycle and I know I still havn't perfected my injecting technique yet, so maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones.

 

[micro]

Afew of my friends and actually one of there wifes, was taking PL's oilbase Winstrol and they said that it stung alittle but no big deal. The only problem is that it makes your whole house smell. I still have an old bottle of the oilbase suspension with the little white label that kept falling off. I leave it up in the closed it a bag, I cant leave it out because it smells to bad.

Did anyone ever get an answer on what the smell is from?

 

[Southernjuice]

Yeah I know the smell, I still have a vial or two of that stinky shit.You can taste the shit every time you inject also....don't know what it is.

 

[crombie44]

PL's Gear

Hey Bro, I feel your pain,
alough pl is one of if not the best bro I have done business with,

I got his Prop, 200mg/ml, Test enth 500mg/ml and Tren 100mg/ml, I went with the higher meg line b/c I new I was going to be mixing all 3 so I though the pain wouldnt be there and to keep the amount injected down,

Well lets just say that wasnt the case, I mixed all 3, .5cc test, .7cc prop, 1cc tren, Glute shot, I woke up in the middle of the night b/c the pain was so bad, couldnt walk, couldnt even lift my leg, I couldnt go to work b/c I was walking like a 90 year old man, thought I F**ked something up it was so bad...
I felt like I was beat in the middle of the night with a bat, over and over...never ever felt pain like this....I am now going to get some b-12 to mix with it, hopefully with will help, plus b12 is great for other things too
my next order I will get his 250mg test, if you are going to have to cut it anyway, then it makes no sence to get the 500mg/ml, alough I am mixing prop and tren which are normaly painfull so that cant help,
im just sucking it up for now. but I know what your going through,
Good Luck bro....

crom

 

[bigkb]

I'm gonna try his 300mg cyp and see if that is better.

KB

 

[manfreakca]

Is that prolines new name for Test THE CRIPPLER lol.I find myself just to heat your dart under hot water and inject nice and smootthhhhhhhhhhh

 

[JamesT]

Shit, this brings back memories of when I was using IP's prop. years ago.
The most painfull shit I have ever used....

I have been hesitant about posting on this because I don't want to hurt PL's business in any way, but I have been driven to the ponit that I just have to ask about this.

Last Tuesday (2/3), I did my first injection of PL's test 500. It was in the thigh. The next day, it began to swell and was a little sore. This didn't surprise me because Sust has done the same to me. On Thursday, the swelling was much greater and it was very sore and turning red. On Friday, the swelling was massive and had spread down into the knee. My knee had literally swollen to almost the same size as my calf..and I have very small knee joints. The entire front of my thigh felt like it was made of hard rubber.

By yesterday, the swelling and pain was absolutely unbearable. I was almost brought to tears lastnight when I had to get up to use the bathroom. Today, the swelling in the knee has gone down some, but that is probably only because it has extended down into the muscle alongside the shin.

What I don't understand is that some have said that this test is painless. So what I need to know is if there are any of you who have had this happen using his test 500. This has been a hell that I don't ever want to go through again.

KB
PS...Again, PL if you read this, I don't mean to scare anybody away from this bro. I just wanted to find out if this has happened to others.

 

[ad234]

Same here...

I experienced soreness from PL's T500, still a great product. It effects different people differently. IMO, definitely not a product for thigh shots. I kept them to my shoulders because once they warmed up it was bearable. In a sick sort of way I liked the fact I was experiencing soreness from the shots because I knew great gains were to follow. Try your shoulders or glutes and keep the cc's low per site and you should be good to go. I refuse to cut high dose gear with sterile oil because it defeats the whole purpose of buying high dose gear in the first place, so if yuo're gonna cut it, cut it with EQ or Deca just to maintain the whole purpose of buying the high-dose gear in the first place.

 

[Mark Kerr]

Maybe my muscles are armor-plated or something, because I have used PL's Test Suspension (the early stuff that came out of suspension), his new Test Susp/Tren combo, the Test Prop/Tren combo, his EQ and his Test E (400mg/ml & 500mg/ml versions) and I have never had any real pain. I had the usual soreness from injecting ANYTHING, and that is it. I just made sure to inject deep into the muscle. Who knows...I guess it is person to person.

[MK]