Post workout shakes - not the protein kind

[tenpoundsleft]

Despite eating a solid breakfast and taking a PWO etc I get the shakes after good workouts.

Is this just an indication that I pushed myself hard and depleted all glycogen reserves?

I do 30-40 minutes of fairly high intensity workouts, not longer than that.

Should I drink something sugary while working out? Even though I don't like that idea.

 

[Leancuisine]

If it only happens after your workouts, I wouldn't drink anything during. Just afterwards. Lots of people do dextrose powder. I might start doing this if I start getting more serious.

I get this as well. Especially when I superset things. Today I did Calf Presses or Raises between every set. Was pretty shaky until I ate.

 

[Remmebersoandso]

Yeah I get this on leg days, I find my blood sugers drop on leg days, grab a blood glucose monitor and check to see.

 

[movingiron88]

Despite eating a solid breakfast and taking a PWO etc I get the shakes after good workouts.

Is this just an indication that I pushed myself hard and depleted all glycogen reserves?

I do 30-40 minutes of fairly high intensity workouts, not longer than that.

Should I drink something sugary while working out? Even though I don't like that idea.

Are you running any gear? When I'm on I get this, when I'm off I'm fine.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Are you running any gear? When I'm on I get this, when I'm off I'm fine.

Never off, on TRT.

But yeah, I've just started a stacked cycle - E3D (100 test, 75 Tren), plus 400 Mast per week (1ml EOD). And using up my remaining Dbol on workout days (20mg), and taking a 50mg Adrol as well. Low dose of a lot of compounds. Too early for that to have kicked in though, it's only been a week.

I remember feeling like this when I did a lot of skiing as a kid, heavy shakes at the end of the day. Now it kicks in after 45 mins after a workout started.

 

[movingiron88]

I got this when I was running tren. I had the shakes and sweets after my intense workouts. Do you happen to have a glucose meter, It is possible you are be going hypoglycemic.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I got this when I was running tren. I had the shakes and sweets after my intense workouts. Do you happen to have a glucose meter, It is possible you are be going hypoglycemic.

I don't feel light-headed at all, isn't that part of hypoglycemia? It really reminds me of how I felt after a day of intense black slope skiing, despite snacking on carbs during the day.

I do take Metformin twice per day, at 850mg each time, not against diabetes but just for the anti-aging effects, and to steer glucose to muscles. Metformin supposedly does NOT cause hypoglycemia.

Since it kicks in after I walk out of the gym and get in the car, maybe it's an indication that I should down a dextrose/protein shake right after?

 

[movingiron88]

I don't feel light-headed at all, isn't that part of hypoglycemia? It really reminds me of how I felt after a day of intense black slope skiing, despite snacking on carbs during the day.

I do take Metformin twice per day, at 850mg each time, not against diabetes but just for the anti-aging effects, and to steer glucose to muscles. Metformin supposedly does NOT cause hypoglycemia.

Since it kicks in after I walk out of the gym and get in the car, maybe it's an indication that I should down a dextrose/protein shake right after?

Your saying it's not hypoglycemia but that you need dextrose after your workout? When are you taking the metformin in relation to your workout? Also you are taking metformin and you don't have a glucose meter?

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Your saying it's not hypoglycemia but that you need dextrose after your workout? Plus you are taking metformin and you don't have a glucose meter?

Leancuisine suggested dextrose right after workouts, and I know many others who take that, I think I've just stayed away from quick carbs too much. I should probably incorporate that.

You don't need a glucose meter for Metformin. I'm not diabetic in the least. And as I said, metformin doesn't cause hypoglycemia.

"Metformin does not increase insulin levels and does not cause hypoglycemia. Instead, it decreases the amount of sugar produced by the liver and tends to suppress appetite."

How Does Metformin Work?

I take metformin for the insulin sensitivity and for the improved muscle glucose transport reasons.

Since the shakes kick in post intense workouts, I should probably follow @Leancuisine advice.

 

[movingiron88]

Metformin (Oral Route) Precautions - Mayo Clinic

It can cause hypoglycemia follow the link. I suggested a glucose meter because you are taking a medicine which effects your blood sugar. Also in the link it tells you to check with a glucose meter.

Dextrose will most likely work because it will elevate your blood sugar. I understand why you are taking it but you may want to research the medicine you are taking.

Just trying to help, but you already got it figured out. Good day!

 

[jJjburton]

Despite eating a solid breakfast and taking a PWO etc I get the shakes after good workouts.

Is this just an indication that I pushed myself hard and depleted all glycogen reserves?

I do 30-40 minutes of fairly high intensity workouts, not longer than that.

Should I drink something sugary while working out? Even though I don't like that idea.

yes, you need some fast carbs during. Its from depletion of glycogen.
Just bring a gatorade or juice during and post workout. Thats what I do. I ws shaking and felt like crap until I had some juice. hen felt ok. I had a carazy workout had to cut it 15 min short.

 

[canucklifter]

what kind of shakes?

I get two types:
1) After really beating the shit out of a certain fiber (I'm really good at mind-muscle connection, so I can push certain fibers to absolute failure without letting nearby muscles take over), if I load it at all after lifting it almost feels like it's vibrating. I get this most in the hamstrings if im leaning a bit forward after a leg workout, they shake and feel super weak
2) benign fasciculations - this is when an unloaded muscle starts randomly contracting at a regular interval. sometimes its once every two seconds or so, sometimes it's like fast semi auto weapons fire pop-pop-pop

both of those dont really relate to glycogen depletion. they're both related to motor neuron exhaustion - there might be plenty of glycogen in the muscle but the nerve that innervates it is totally fucked.

anecdotally, taurine has helped (2) above, although it doesnt always get rid of it. both just need R+R. there's not any way I know of to speed up neuron recovery other than time. pretty sure its fairly rate-limited. you cant just pound taurine or other electrolytes like you pound glycogen for example

 

[canucklifter]

both of those feel different than hypo btw. hypo almost always also has mental fog, light headedness, balance issues, etc. if you're mentally fine but your muscles are twitching it might not be hypoglycemia

 

[tenpoundsleft]

both of those feel different than hypo btw. hypo almost always also has mental fog, light headedness, balance issues, etc. if you're mentally fine but your muscles are twitching it might not be hypoglycemia

Helpful posts, thanks. Yes, no mental fog at all, just the muscle(s) that I've worked out that get all shaky and weak - which is why I didn't relate this to hypoglycemia, that's supposed to more or less knock you out, right?

 

[canucklifter]

Helpful posts, thanks. Yes, no mental fog at all, just the muscle(s) that I've worked out that get all shaky and weak - which is why I didn't relate this to hypoglycemia, that's supposed to more or less knock you out, right?

I'm far from an expert on hypoglycemia. I've just noticed the two shakes above even when I'm for sure not hypo. I might get home, eat 100g of carb, and even when blood sugar is clearly sky high (that sugar rush feeling) the spasms will still be firing.

I don't *think* those twitches are a bigger issue, googling motor neuron fatigue and benign fasciculation didn't lead me to think so at least. But I've never talked to a doc about it.

I've had the fasciculations most when peaking for powerlifting (heavy singles) even when eating tons of food.

The neuron fatigue I get more with bodybuilding training (really just trying to isolate and destroy fibers). Haven't found anything to help it either than rest.

It hasn't really ever interfered with movement though. I can still walk fine and everything. If yours is really bad standard disclaimer about seeing a doctor. You don't want to fuck with your nervous system!