Grizzly
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role model said:
I won't. Mike Mentzer was a fucking looney toon.
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I won't. Mike Mentzer was a fucking looney toon.
role model
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Grizzly said:
Mike Mentzer was a fucking loony tune because of his theories on training infrequency.
Mike was only doing 30 minutes 4 times a week and only about 5 sets per body part, then said that was to much. Thats the crazy part.
Before Mike Mentzer went off the deep end, he took Arthur Jones's bodybuilding concepts which was for back, Close Grip (Palm Up) Lat Pulldowns 6 to 10 reps. l forgot about Arthur Jones theories. and Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman'S workout Below.
Mon
Deadlifts 805 4 6-12
Barbell rows 585 3 10-12
T-bar rows 58503010-12
one-arm dumbbell rows 200 3 10-12
Th
Barbell rows 585 5 10-12
Pulley rows 400 4 10-12
Machine pulldowns 350 3 10-12
Front pulldowns 350 3 10-12
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Grizzly
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role model said:
Normally, I like you, but since you've said some of the most retarded shit I've ever read on this board, I feel compelled to embarass you. Kneel down and kiss the ring of His Almighty Grizzness, He Who is NEVER Wrong.
"Pull Up
6 sets of 15 reps
Chin Up
6 sets of 10 reps
Behind-the-neck Pulldowns
4 sets of 15 reps
Barbell Rows
4 sets of 15 reps"
You'll notice the fact that chins comprise 3/4 of the workout. But, you're right, Pudz doesn't have a big back.
http://www.pudzian.pl/english/galeria35.php#
role model
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Grizzly said:Normally, I like you, but since you've said some of the most retarded shit I've ever read on this board, I feel compelled to embarass you. Kneel down and kiss the ring of His Almighty Grizzness, He Who is NEVER Wrong.
"Pull Up
6 sets of 15 reps
Chin Up
6 sets of 10 reps
Behind-the-neck Pulldowns
4 sets of 15 reps
Barbell Rows
4 sets of 15 reps"
You'll notice the fact that chins comprise 3/4 of the workout. But, you're right, Pudz doesn't have a big back.
He's strong as a bitch. but doesn't have a big back at all. Now his legs are crazy strong.
just think if he learned how to train like a bb. He'd grow size wise to.
Grizz, when did you get released from Chicago's mental farm.
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Grizzly
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I beg to differ. His back, just like the rest of him, is huge. Are you even 1/4 the size?
role model
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l'm 7/8 his size and he actually could be my kid.Grizzly said:
Beefster
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role model said:
Everyone has a different opinion and experiences with workouts so I will not comment on the whole back workout thing. However, if you do some searching on the mechanics of the body, you will find that the above quote is wrong. Your biceps are recruited more with an underhand grip chin than with an overhand chin or pulldown.
Pullups vs pulldowns? If you keep proper form during pulldowns, that you are FORCED to keep during pullups, then they would be similarily effective.
role model
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And I also believe thats why 95 percent of gym rats have a smaller back than me. And I'm closer to 50 than 40. Bar rows are the best lat builder out there.migity said:
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deathgrip07
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I just did some chins and I can feel my lats growing as I type this post
role model
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LOL, best post of the day.deathgrip07 said:I just did some chins and I can feel my lats growing as I type this post
I would be amazed if I could even FIND someone else in the gym doing rows besides myself. Wait, I have seen a couple of the chicks doing their 5 pound bentover rows while standing just shy of upright.role model said:
Pudz has a small back? Dude, you need glasses.
Ehh, youre absolutely wrong. Youre a smart guy RM, but even someone with a very basic understanding of physiology would know that an underhand grip will increase the involvement of the bis.
As Grizz said, Mentzer was a fuckin retard. While Im sure Grizz admires Mike for his love of Ayn Rand, his BBing advice just plain sucked. He was a dipshit with an outlet, much like that douchebag Valentino with the 10w-30 arms who writes for Muscular Development.
Beefy
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How did Mentzer get the body of a greek god?
deathgrip07
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Ah... Maybe AAS???
role model
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Compared to a pro BB yes he does, besides I heard Pudz takes absolutely lethal doses of anadrol 200mg a day. See how long he lasts doing that.Bob Smith said:
Grizzly
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role model said:
Well, we're not talking in comparisson to a pro BB. May as well call them weak becaue they can't lift like him. The fact of the matter is Pudz' back is fucking enormous by most any standard.
Grizzly
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Hell, by that shitty line of reasoning, Dexter Jackson's back isn't big because it's not a big as Coleman's, which, according to you, means it's small. In fact, all pro bodybuilders except the few whose backs are all the same size have small backs because they're not the biggest backs in the world.
And, really, dude, I'm pretty sure Pudz could step on any BB stage and hang. He'd have his pro card after his first cometition.
And, really, dude, I'm pretty sure Pudz could step on any BB stage and hang. He'd have his pro card after his first cometition.
role model
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We certainly are talking big backs, anybody, weak strong, the question was, workout for a big back and Pudz doesn't have one compared to the pro bb's. If we were talking strong man comp or power lifting that different but that even bring up a good point how come he isn't in a strong man comp?Grizzly said:
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role model
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What does Pudz do now days anyway? I haven't heard much about him in the past few years.Grizzly said:
From everything I have read about Mentzer, he didnt switch to his Heavy Duty garbage until AFTER he was one of the top BBers in the world.Beefy said:
1) Speculation, and 2) How about all the enormous drug usage by your beloved BBers?
You havent been paying attention, then.
WSM winner in 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2nd place in 2006.
With a 58" chest, I would say that puts him among the largest in all of pro BBing. Oh, how amazing...Ronnie Coleman has a 58" chest, too. Jay Cutler, 58 inches. Melvin Anthony, 55"; Chris Cormier, a measly 52". So I guess Pudz isnt so small after all.
