PPL layouts. How do YOU do it?

Swolabetic

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I know this is common, and I am not looking to be spoon fed. When doing a PPL, we will take PUSH day for example, so CHEST, TRIS and SHOULDERS. For ME and apparently others, your shoulders will obviously be fatigued after some good chest work. Bench, Incline, yada yada. So, my main question is, do you do all chest excersies first? Or mix em? For example:

Chest:
Bench
Incline
Flies

Tris:
CGBP
Over Head Tricep ext
Cable Triceps

Shoulders: By this point, I for one, have delts that are SWOLE.
Military Press

Or would you do something mixed like:

Bench
Military Press
CGBP
Incline Bench
Shoulder Press
Tricep Extensions


AGAIN, this is just a shitty example.
 
I do PPL, 2 times a week
1st Time I do push I start with chest
2nd time focus on shoulders
First push it thickness on back
2nd is width
 
Here's what I do:

Push
#1 flat bench, DB or BB
#2 incline bench, DB or BB
#3 lateral or front raise
#4 decline bench machine or DB
#5 pec deck or chest fly
#6 tricep push down or tricep overheard ext

Pull
#1 Lat pulldown or lat machine
#2 bent-over row DB or BB (I like to do both arms simultaneously with DB rows, much better than one arm and one on a bench)
#3 reverse fly, cable or machine
#4 pullups or heavy cable pulldowns
#5 pullovers or lat cable pushdown
#6 curls

So compounds first, isolation last, but mixed in a little. Like you wont need much delts for decline press, so do lat raises to give your pecs and tris a rest before decline. Same with back, "rest" with rear flies to work upper back before getting to lats+bis on a compound. Rest will help performance, performance will create demand for growth. As far as frequency, I go by feel. Never less than every other day, never more than 2 days in a row. Basically 4-5x/week. Can describe legs day as well if needed
 
I ran one of Meadows PPL, Creeping Death and absolutely loved it.
Basically
Push, Pull, Leg intensity then Push, Pull, Leg pump all in one week. I dropped the leg pump and kept it to a 5 day a week program.
 
I started with PPL natty and wasn't really too happy with my delt and trap development as well as being limited to roughly an hour gym time, I switched to PPSL, so push pull shoulders legs in order to spend an entire workout focusing on shoulders and traps. typically 5 or 6 days a week depending on my wife's work schedule.
We'll see how I respond when I start my cycle, but being natty PPL wasn't cutting it.
 
In general the order and exercises always change. Sometimes arms get a dedicated day. If I’m not focusing on development in any one area it’s:
Pull (no DLs)
Push (chest dominant)
Legs (ham dominant, leg press primary movement)
Off
Pull (DLs)
Push (shoulder dominant)
Legs (quad dominant, squats or hacks primary movement)
Off

The great thing about PPL is 2x a week frequency built in and how flexible it is. Don’t need delt work? Both push days are chest dominant. Need quads? Both leg days are quad focused. Legs huge? Make it one leg day per week instead of 2.
 
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