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[newguy2]

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim that Primal was deliberately shorting the P200. That wouldn’t even make sense anyway since he was having it tested. It’s more a question of brewing competency, for me at least.

For sure the 100mg being spot on makes things look a bit subpar. I would have more confidence in the Brewer if they were both off by a similar margin.

These guys just can't exercise the patience to test raws and then brew.

But who knows what goes on behind the scenes. They may be leveraged financially and need to get the stuff for sale to recoup some capital.

 

[PrimoKerby]

People complaining about the underdosed primo for 165$ domestic price when you can get pharmaqo 175mg primo for 180$ it hasn’t even been GCMS tested, or raws tested relatively it’s a good price and we know what’s in it, what’s the big issue ? In retrospect he’s done everything right in this segment. Sure maybe brewing calculations need to be refined more but I take this as a great movement into the right direction in progress of a source.

 

[Raiders789]

2% in 2023

Post in thread 'Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services'

Apr 2, 2023

hi, I have results from the same batch of product (I mean the literal same bottle) that came out with a 10-15% variability on testing. Eg a tren enan dosed originally at ~223mg/ml came out once at 214mg and another at 232mg. Why is that? My guesses are:

1) normal margin of error in testing methods
2) sample sedimentation
3) not ideal calibration samples

Hello,

1) our stated permissible margin of error is ± 5%, which would mean range of 211.85 - 234.15 mg/ml for 223 mg/ml sample. Usually it's around 2%, 5% is quite rare tbh.
2) not sure what sedimentation means in this context...

• janoshik

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I may be incorrect, but a bit of surface research gave me the impression that (at least for testosterone) they have to conform to the USP monograph and they require that testosterone injections be within 90%-110% of the labeled amount of whatever test ester(by HPLC). But the manufacturers can shoot whatever range they want, like within 2% and market as that, as long as it meets the USP requirements

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim that Primal was deliberately shorting the P200. That wouldn’t even make sense anyway since he was having it tested. It’s more a question of brewing competency, for me at least.

True and you could be right. But I just did a quick surf of their lab results on their website and it looks like big majority of their injectables are almost spot on, with a few slight overdoses and under doses. But then again, there was the cyp 50 overdose a little while ago that was pretty significant so I'm not sure what to think

 

[Photon]

I may be incorrect, but a bit of surface research gave me the impression that (at least for testosterone) they have to conform to the USP monograph and they require that testosterone injections be within 90%-110% of the labeled amount of whatever test ester(by HPLC). But the manufacturers can shoot whatever range they want, like within 2% and market as that, as long as it meets the USP requirements

Indeed, pharma variance is 10%.
I'm just saying that repeated testing of a vial or batch @ Jano has a rough variance of 2% (average as of 2023) - 5% (rare case)

 

[Raiders789]

Indeed, pharma variance is 10%.
I'm just saying that repeated testing of a vial or batch @ Jano has a rough variance of 2% (average as of 2023) - 5% (rare case)

Ohhh ok my bad I totally misinterpreted that lmao

 

[Infernalmango]

People complaining about the underdosed primo for 165$ domestic price when you can get pharmaqo 175mg primo for 180$ it hasn’t even been GCMS tested, or raws tested relatively it’s a good price and we know what’s in it, what’s the big issue ? In retrospect he’s done everything right in this segment. Sure maybe brewing calculations need to be refined more but I take this as a great movement into the right direction in progress of a source.

 

[yepyep12]

But you don’t REALLY care if the mast e gets accurately dosed right? As long as it’s tested and he’s transparent about the results then you’ll be happy, correct?

No obviously not, if it's underdosed then he needs to adjust price and if it's consistently underdosed then I'd have an issue with him as source. I'm sure you like to assume things based off one singular post since you function off a singular braincell right?

If im paying for 200mg and its tested at 175, im not paying a 200mg price.

He's adjusted the price accordingly to meet 175. Read a page or two before and you'd see it.

 

[Infernalmango]

No obviously not, if it's underdosed then he needs to adjust price and if it's consistently underdosed then I'd have an issue with him as source. I'm sure you like to assume things based off one singular post since you function off a singular braincell right?

He's adjusted the price accordingly to meet 175. Read a page or two before and you'd see it.

You basically backed the underdosed primo, and in the same post, said he better get the stuff YOU WANT dosed right. Im the brain dead one here??

 

[yepyep12]

You basically backed the underdosed primo, and in the same post, said he better get the stuff YOU WANT dosed right. Im the brain dead one here??

You clearly can't read and lack comprehension skills if you think I backed it. He thinks the original price for 200mg is $165, I'm simply stating that, that is the lowered price from $180 for 200mg. So yes i'd assume you're a human vegetable, and based on my short interaction with you it's not a leap to assume that.
I want this source to consistently dose correctly and provide testing and transparency as the bare minimum to confirm the quality of his products. Not just for mast, but for all products that he brews because it attests to the quality of his brewing.

 

[hard_gains]

Over 10% underdosed is brewed well huh? Did you get homeschooled?

And it’s just a name, I’ve been doing this for a while. Are you really a hard gainer little man or just don’t know how to work out?

My issue is know what the dose is. Did he fuck up the dosing it at 200? Fuck yes he did. He fucked that up badly. But the source here was transparent about those fuck ups.

I'm actually morbidly obese. I spend most of my days setting in my roommates/parents basement chatting with greased up beef cakes online. I don't even workout or take gear.

 

[Tk1000]

Partial test results came back today.

Sealed Vial P11 Batch - 235.63 mg/ml

P11 Jano Link

P10 Combined Batch (14 P10 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial) - 249.13 mg/ml

P10 Combined Jano Link

Awaiting Results
-P10 Sealed Vial
-P11 Combined Batch (14 P11 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial)

 

[Dumbellsanonymous]

My issue is know what the dose is. Did he fuck up the dosing it at 200? Fuck yes he did. He fucked that up badly. But the source here was transparent about those fuck ups.

I'm actually morbidly obese. I spend most of my days setting in my roommates/parents basement chatting with greased up beef cakes online. I don't even workout or take gear.

Now I'm interested to see what you actually look like.

 

[crispybacon!]

Partial test results came back today.

Sealed Vial P11 Batch - 235.63 mg/ml

P11 Jano Link

P10 Combined Batch (14 P10 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial) - 249.13 mg/ml

P10 Combined Jano Link

Awaiting Results
-P10 Sealed Vial
-P11 Combined Batch (14 P11 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial)

Thanks for doing this…

So now that we have a shitload of testing for TC250-P10, with results of ~220mg, ~230mg, ~240mg, and ~250mg, what can be gathered from these findings? How many different P10 “batches” were actually brewed?

 

[BigDadd7]

My issue is know what the dose is. Did he fuck up the dosing it at 200? Fuck yes he did. He fucked that up badly. But the source here was transparent about those fuck ups.

I'm actually morbidly obese. I spend most of my days setting in my roommates/parents basement chatting with greased up beef cakes online. I don't even workout or take gear.

I just got hard

 

[Tk1000]

Thanks for doing this…

So now that we have a shitload of testing for TC250-P10, with results of ~220mg, ~230mg, ~240mg, and ~250mg, what can be gathered from these findings? How many different P10 “batches” were actually brewed?

Surprised it came in right on target. I was expecting closer results to yours at ~230mg. For what it is worth, I purchased P10 mid August.

 

[hard_gains]

Now I'm interested to see what you actually look like.

I just got hard

 

[New2theGame!!]

My issue is know what the dose is. Did he fuck up the dosing it at 200? Fuck yes he did. He fucked that up badly. But the source here was transparent about those fuck ups.

I'm actually morbidly obese. I spend most of my days setting in my roommates/parents basement chatting with greased up beef cakes online. I don't even workout or take gear.

The amount of chances you guys give this source is amazing. Talk about shills and ball suckers.

Keep letting all his fuk ups slide, you guys really vet them good lol

 

[Ghoul]

My issue is know what the dose is. Did he fuck up the dosing it at 200? Fuck yes he did. He fucked that up badly. But the source here was transparent about those fuck ups.

I'm actually morbidly obese. I spend most of my days setting in my roommates/parents basement chatting with greased up beef cakes online. I don't even workout or take gear.

 

[hard_gains]

The amount of chances you guys give this source is amazing. Talk about shills and ball suckers.

Keep letting all his fuk ups slide, you guys really vet them good lol

Stop bitching. Check my post history. I've never shilled for any source. And I'm not doing it now. Primal has fucked up plenty and got caught. He's lied about having primo and several other things. Those were all perfectly responsible to call him out for those fuck ups.

But this cry baby bullshit about wanting it brewed at a perfect 200 is ridiculous. Did he lie about it and say it was 200? Was it being sold at the original price?

Don't buy from him man. Tell all your friends not to buy from him. It's super simple. Or if your going to bitch find something that holds some weight behind it.

 

[Cman90]

The fact that a brand new start up vendor can get it right and Primals shit keeps coming in under-dosed is fucking embarrassing and very telling.

Took a small risk when sp5der thread first showed up, and the test results confirm we have a good one here.

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