no clue never taken his primo or primo in general, wasnt here for that drama show. apparently he made a fuck up and ended up owning it after being called out was my understanding?. ive only ordered recently tested batches, i mean 250 mg cyp tested at $25 thats 2018-2019 pricing. i havent used any of the gear yet. traveling, so i only travel with whats legally prescribed to me. id say at the price it is (primo) currently at compared to other beloved vendors, if you're not strapped for cash grabbing a few vials and sending a test or two off couldn't hurt, it'll either prove changes were made and the price was a steal. or it could potentially show changes weren't made and the criticism is still justifiable. side note, seeing that i recently inquired to send a fda approved cyp vial out to jano after bloods that came out weak/low i wont be surprised that the trt company im going thru is selling underdosed cyp, and if they are, it just shows nobody is infallible. not much of a direct answer for ya, ill get what i ordered for myself tested, if its good orbad ill post it to the board. if its as advertised ill run it, p simple.