MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Musclechick2]

guessing this is sarcasm?

No I think he’s dead serious

 

[freedom69]

Then you should know more is NOT better. It is one of the most toxic steroids out there. Most people know that

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

guessing this is sarcasm?

Not at all

 

[verylargeshoes]

Not at all

Post history checks out.

A GRAM AND A HALF OF TREN

 

[Flex.AF]

@verylargeshoes Can you and @Sampei explain the 2028 product expiry on the COA since you two were so adamant about raw lasting for 15+ years?

 

[Sicsemptyran]

@verylargeshoes Can you and @Sampei explain the 2028 product expiry on the COA since you two were so adamant about raw lasting for 15+ years?

It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.

 

[Ghoul]

It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.

An even 2 years from manufacturing date is a tell that the manufacturer is using the default minimum guaranteed potency date, and not anything based on degradation testing. It could be good for 40 years at low temps.

2 years is minimum stability testing period for most drug regulators, FDA, EMA, etc, no need for a drug manufacturer to prove it lasts longer than that.

An expiration date less than 2 years can be an indicator that a drug is more susceptible to degrading over time than most.

 

[Flex.AF]

It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.

IE not 15+ years. I’m just curious if @verylargeshoes, @Sampei and @readalot would be cool with it being past the expiry date since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters. Just trying to keep it real. Probably get some AI response from Opera browser but I would like to understand why they don’t hold themselves to the same standards they push on this Sponser and other members. I invite them to walk the walk, if they are going to talk the talk.

 

[Wizbang]

Feel like this is devolving into madness a bit no?

 

[readalot]

since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters

Not quite. I did link to these....

R

Post in thread 'Guangzhou Gemini Biotech Co., Ltd.(USA, International)'

Jun 24, 2025

I got .22 PTFEs from cobetter. Dont get them from Amazon.

Haven't checked the price lately but the 10 pack from Peptide Test were nice (Tisch).

Edit: still same price

Tisch Scientific Filter Syringe .22μm PTFE 25mm - Sterile Individually

Tisch Scientific Filter Syringe 22μm Ptfe 25mm – Peptide Test Lab Supplies - Fast, accurate, and trusted.

peptidetest.com

• readalot

• 

Is this what you are referring to?

Convenient that you left this out....

R

Post in thread 'HGH Sensitivity Discussion'

Jun 6, 2025

I believe that is what this study indicates also.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S002235491531501X

The Effects of Particles Shed from Syringe Filters :: Micro-Flow Imaging

These are good references. Thank you for sharing. That's my concern with using these syringe filters for anything that isn't absolutely critical from sterility standpoint. What's the net-net effect?

We don't have the means to characterize what's coming off these cheap syringe filters from Amazon or even the Tisch filters.

I have...

• readalot

 

[verylargeshoes]

@verylargeshoes Can you and @Sampei explain the 2028 product expiry on the COA since you two were so adamant about raw lasting for 15+ years?

Me? I asked a question. Was it especially adamant?

 

[Flex.AF]

An even 2 years from manufacturing date is a tell that the manufacturer is using the default minimum guaranteed potency date, and not anything based on degradation testing. It could be good for 40 years at low temps.

2 years is minimum stability testing period for most drug regulators, FDA, EMA, etc, no need for a drug manufacturer to prove it lasts longer than that.

An expiration date less than 2 years can be an indicator that a drug is more susceptible to degrading over time than most.

Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?

Not quite. I did link to these....

R

Post in thread 'Guangzhou Gemini Biotech Co., Ltd.(USA, International)'

Jun 24, 2025

I got .22 PTFEs from cobetter. Dont get them from Amazon.

Haven't checked the price lately but the 10 pack from Peptide Test were nice (Tisch).

Edit: still same price

Tisch Scientific Filter Syringe .22μm PTFE 25mm - Sterile Individually

Tisch Scientific Filter Syringe 22μm Ptfe 25mm – Peptide Test Lab Supplies - Fast, accurate, and trusted.

peptidetest.com

• readalot

• 

Is this what you are referring to?

Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?

 

[readalot]

Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?

Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?

Clarifying on your comments. See my post and then try and formulate a thoughtful response.

 

[Ghoul]

Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?

Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?

What are you talking about?

I said a 2 year expiration date on pharma is a strong clue the manufacturer just complied with the minimum amount of time for stability testing required by regulators, and not necessarily an indicator of how long the drug stays potent beyond 2 years.

If it's less than 2 years, there's a good likelihood stability testing showed it started degrading prior to 2 years.

 

[readalot]

since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters.

These are good references. Thank you for sharing. That's my concern with using these syringe filters for anything that isn't absolutely critical from sterility standpoint. What's the net-net effect?

We don't have the means to characterize what's coming off these cheap syringe filters from Amazon or even the Tisch filters.

Get your facts straight.

 

[Flex.AF]

Clarifying on your comments. See my post and then try and formulate a thoughtful response.

I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.

Get your facts straight.

You always play the semantics card.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.

You always play the semantics card.

Primal logged onto his alt to attack,lmao

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

Then you should know more is NOT better. It is one of the most toxic steroids out there. Most people know that

I think more is better. They tell you it’s toxic to keep you small, skinny, weak, and fat. Leave the big boy doses to the big boys

 

[The Answ3r]

I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.

You always play the semantics card.

Calling out @readalot? Man, that’s like trying to arm wrestle a windmill - you’re just gonna tire yourself out while he’s still spinning. Sure, he writes walls of text that feel like reading War and Peace on leg day, and yeah, for a bunch of iron-loving guys who think heads are mainly for eating, that’s a tough read. But go for it, bro - this is gonna be one hell of a show to watch!

 

[Flex.AF]

Calling out @readalot? Man, that’s like trying to arm wrestle a windmill - you’re just gonna tire yourself out while he’s still spinning. Sure, he writes walls of text that feel like reading War and Peace on leg day, and yeah, for a bunch of iron-loving guys who think heads are mainly for eating, that’s a tough read. But go for it, bro - this is gonna be one hell of a show to watch!

I’m dead. Lofl.