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[dinfar1337]

Depending on solvent being used in Jano sample column, it could degrade the API.

just ask him, he is usually more than happy to clear stuff up. if it is the case.

usually jano does his job wonderfully he has worked with these compounds for over a decade.

 

[Photon]

Depending on solvent being used in Jano sample column, it could degrade the API.

@janoshik

Hi Janoshik
Could you kindly share what is done to adrol caps before HPLC testing is performed?

 

[readalot]

i like that subscriber badge , Thats new and you DEFINITELY earned it! Thanks @Primal_Pharma for being a "Class Act" !

This appears to be a new badge added to those accounts (member and subscriber) that sign up for the "premium" upgrade feature.

You will also notice that the label has now changed and the "harm reduction supporter" portion has been removed from the badge. IMO this is a good change @MESO-Rx Administrator.

Would be really productive to have a separate badge for folks who contribute to the group testing thread. Obviously that has to be verified somehow. That MESO actively supports improved testing and standards for the UG (and provides a space to encourage it) is what separates it from the pack as far as AAS forums go.

 

[Matty_G]

I think the elephant in the room is Jano’s testing of the Anadrol. I was told that another source sent in their Anadrol 50’s and it came back as ‘nothing detected’. Keep in mind this sources 25’s tested at 25.something with the same raw.

Again, he sent in another batch, told me there was in fact Anadrol in there, without a shadow of doubt. Same raw as his 25’s and bam - “nothing detected.”

He asked Jano why and couldn’t get a clear answer. Maybe the filler. Maybe what they used to test it at higher dose? I’m not sure. But something to think about.

@janoshik

Hi Janoshik
Could you kindly share what is done to adrol caps before HPLC testing is performed?

I’m pretty sure Jano mentioned before that adrol can react with certain fillers in the testing procedure..if I’m not mistaken another vendor had this issue last year and his filler was baking soda. First test showed no detection and second sample from same batch came back accurate

 

[Photon]

I’m pretty sure Jano mentioned before that adrol can react with certain fillers in the testing procedure..if I’m not mistaken another vendor had this issue last year and his filler was baking soda. First test showed no detection and second sample from same batch came back accurate

Dam that's interesting.
Looks like baking soda reacts with oxy. I'm curious what the reaction is tho.

Post in thread 'Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services'

Apr 11, 2023

I am going to create capsules with iron oxide as a trace dye.

Would it interfere with testing?

I'm fairly sure it's insoluble in methanol, so it should be okay.

Just don't use baking soda if you can avoid it.

That stuff reacts with oxymetholone.

• janoshik

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For reference, 3rd party testing on the 50mgs.

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Sep 23, 2025

Results from Anadrol 50mg. I am guessing they are supposed to 25mg. The mistake I made was sending all 3 caps from same bottle. I am not sure if this oversight is more widespread and I got 6 bottles......I am sure @Primal_Pharma will straighten it all out.

At least I am not crazy, I was wondering why I basically didn't notice the 100mg I was taking everyday.

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[readalot]

I’m pretty sure Jano mentioned before that adrol can react with certain fillers in the testing procedure..if I’m not mistaken another vendor had this issue last year and his filler was baking soda. First test showed no detection and second sample from same batch came back accurate

Good clarifying points. Thank you.

Just don't use baking soda if you can avoid it.

That stuff reacts with oxymetholone.

Also see MeOH comments.

 

[monster8912]

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[Primal_Pharma]

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[Eweaps]

got my blood work results I hopped off and was at 473. Jumped up to 1700 in two months . Test 400 masteron p 300 . Overall everything looks prettt good for my pov very happy with @Primal_Pharma

 

[Eweaps]

got my blood work results I hopped off and was at 473. Jumped up to 1700 in two months . Test 400 masteron p 300 . Overall everything looks prettt good for my pov very happy with @Primal_Pharma

Oh and a 150 mg of tren E as well

 

[janoshik]

@janoshik

Hi Janoshik
Could you kindly share what is done to adrol caps before HPLC testing is performed?

Dissolved in MeOH, filtered from particulate and tested.

 

[Photon]

Dissolved in MeOH, filtered from particulate and tested.

There shouldn't be a reaction with meOH and baking soda, which means it'll get filtered out? Is there a possibility that HPLC shows that adrol is not present when it in fact is?

 

[janoshik]

There shouldn't be a reaction with meOH and baking soda, which means it'll get filtered out? Is there a possibility that HPLC shows that adrol is not present when it in fact is?

MeOH reacts with anadrol, but we are used to it and detect the methanol adduct.

About other fillers... We don't really have the ability to keep all that in check.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

MeOH reacts with anadrol, but we are used to it and detect the methanol adduct.

About other fillers... We don't really have the ability to keep all that in check.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

got my blood work results I hopped off and was at 473. Jumped up to 1700 in two months . Test 400 masteron p 300 . Overall everything looks prettt good for my pov very happy with @Primal_Pharma

DM for store credit my brother!

 

[JBird99]

At the risk of embarrassing myself how much longer after the suggested exp. date can one continue use of pills? I ordered a decent amount of var and just realized it’ll be more than a few years worth of supply at the rate I do orals and just wanted an experienced answer from you guys thanks in advance!

 

[Photon]

MeOH reacts with anadrol, but we are used to it and detect the methanol adduct.

About other fillers... We don't really have the ability to keep all that in check.

With reference to this

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Oct 6, 2025

I think the elephant in the room is Jano’s testing of the Anadrol. I was told that another source sent in their Anadrol 50’s and it came back as ‘nothing detected’. Keep in mind this sources 25’s tested at 25.something with the same raw.

Again, he sent in another batch, told me there was in fact Anadrol in there, without a shadow of doubt. Same raw as his 25’s and bam - “nothing detected.”

He asked Jano why and couldn’t get a clear answer. Maybe the filler. Maybe what they used to test it at higher dose? I’m not sure. But something to think about.

• Primal_Pharma

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Will there be an issue regarding testing accuracy if a source uses baking soda as fillers?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

There shouldn't be a reaction with meOH and baking soda, which means it'll get filtered out? Is there a possibility that HPLC shows that adrol is not present when it in fact is?

Love love love that you are pushing on the science, genuinely. Respectfully, some of the thread is getting ahead of the methods and treating a complex analytical question like it’s binary. In practice, variables like solvent choice (methanol adducts), pH, sample prep, column chemistry, gradient, internal standards, and calibration all influence what you “see.” That’s why two HPLC results can diverge without anyone acting in bad faith.

We’re here for the scrutiny, just want to avoid turning hypotheticals into headlines that spook people. Please guys, let’s stay methodical, compare apples to apples, and let the data speak.

I know he has fun in here but @sionnach really knows his stuff. Would love to hear what he thinks.

 

[BigDadd7]

At the risk of embarrassing myself how much longer after the suggested exp. date can one continue use of pills? I ordered a decent amount of var and just realized it’ll be more than a few years worth of supply at the rate I do orals and just wanted an experienced answer from you guys thanks in advance!

Five, ten years. They don't go bad or spoil, they just lose efficacy. Cool and dark is your friend.

 

[Tdeck81]

know he has fun in here but @sionnach really knows his stuff.

Well well well. Look who’s been hiding in the back of the class