Carrier oil affects rate of absorption. Additionally if your test cyp batch was overdosed for example 200mg/ml > 212mg/ml, and then your test is batch is underdosed for example 250mg/ml > 233mg/ml, then in this case you will be injecting less hormone than you are used to. In my opinion it’s normal to experience mood/libido changes when switching compound ester. But don’t rely on guessing, pull bloods for estrodial and test and make sure you’re in range. Also your new gear could be bunk, you didn’t mention if it is primal or not.
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Nothing new, works relatively stress free I work on my own so I don’t really have many stressors. If anything I’m getting a new guy so stress should be more relieved. The only slight change is my gym closed for renovations so I haven’t been training as frequently as I’d like but the libido change happened before that and I’ve been on the test e for like 2 weeks since I dropped another sources test e which was bunk. I switched over to primals a few weeks ago I was feeling great when I jumped on then boom libidos been off but otherwise I feel great. I’m on 300mg of test e and I take 25 of aromasin and that usually keeps me feeling good. I also increased calories for a slight refeed since I was in a deficit for a while. I’m going to get blood work in a few weeks because it’s my 3 month blood panels anyways so I wanted to wait to get a full work up to see if my shgb has improved because last time it was low and even then my libido was actually good.
Are you using 25mg aromasin dosed daily???!!
BigDadd7
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I'm gonna go with jdub and recommend bloodwork. Generally speaking, the two esthers have virtually identical half lives, and gso vs mct is pretty minor. Gf still hot? She's not nagging you too much or wearing granny panties to bed?
Bandern
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I used 21 or 22 in the past and they worked fine. When I was a lil newer to the game I saw somebody say they used 18 so I thought I’d try them and if I ever remember who recommended it I’m going to report them!!
No God no I use that weekly max
Might turn gay going to E bro be careful
No Gf but the chick im messing with dtill
Has fat tits and a fat ass and is basically constantly begging for more I just feel shitty I went from 3-4 rds when I see her to barely getting 1 off damn near.
Lol I have a decent stash of test e I might just end up going back to test c at some point and take an L and have my buddy take these off my hands unfortunately haha
Nixonnow99
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Are you a high aromatizer? 25 of Asin a week is still a lot. My vote is crashed or near-crashed E2
jakestan2001
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It's funny that you mention this because I switched from another sources Test c200 to Primals Test e250 and I have been feeling the same way. I figured maybe it was just in my head and was waiting for the testing to be posted to rest my thoughts. Same dose, same frequency everything. Nothings changed except the esther and source. Could still be in my head though.
Thank the lord. If you were I was gonna say I think we’ve found our issue. Personally I would never just use ai based on feel unless I’m on actual cycle. Running 300mg sounds like you are just essentially running long term trt+, in this case I would experiment with my aromasin dosage by taking an exact dose for 2 weeks followed by a blood panel for estrodial. And I would continue to do this process until I find the correct dosage for me. However I cycle and this is not how I use aromasin, if im running 750 test and feel high e2 or gyno symptoms im popping some aromasin to immediately correct e2, and adjusting my ratios of test/eq.
Here are some things to take note of with aromasin, as im sure you know it is a suicide ai. Your dosage schedule even if mg stay the same will completely change your result. For example taking one bullous dose of 25mg will likely bind every aromatase enzyme and crush e2 to 0. And because it is a suicidal binder you will have to wait 1-2 weeks to normalize e2 as new receptors have to be synthesized.
If your goal is about 25mg per week I would recommend a 6.25mg eod approach.
I also didn’t hear anything about your pin schedule. Pinning your test all in one bullous will result in more aromatization compared to daily microdose just to point out the 2 polar ends.
One other thing you mentioned is you have increased your calories, if you got significantly fatter you will also now be aromatizing more, I would consider this a possibility if you’ve gained a visible 3-5% bodyfat or 12-15lbs of body weight.
There is no reason why you should trash your test e and only use cyp unless your test e is bunk. You can validate whether your gear is real, overdosed, or underdosed by sending it to jano.
Libido can be affected by both too high and too low e2.
In my opinion your e2 is most likely too low due to ai overuse, personally I can take 500mg test e per week pinned eod without ai intervention and e2 will stay high end but in range, I wouldn’t even consider taking ai at 300mg weekly dosage based on my own body.
The last thing I can think of is active total hormone per ml based on carrier oils and alcohol. The scientific theory behind this is kind of beyond me but based on this vigorous Steve video it appears that the active hormone from cyp is 69% and enenthate is 72%. If you want to research ester theory for yourself I recommend you watch this video for yourself.
Overall just don’t guess with this stuff brother, we have all the tools to maximize our health.
View: https://youtu.be/PL__qZjJdGM?si=oJuWA2FFrYVOa73o
AIRBORNE DADDY
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Jesus I use 23g and put the vials in the microwave 10 seconds. No they don't spark but a needle will immediately. Can't believe guys pin with 18g, I thought that was to backfill slin pins ... no need for a harpoon with mct.
I think it’s just me in my head overthinking it too honestly.
Absolutely I’m just waiting for my turn to get labwork done mainly that’s just what I’m waiting on so I might just book an early appt and have my doc run a full panel even though we’re a little early. Ive actually lost weight during my refeed and have improved body fat percentage I just have been keeping pretty steady to not blow up I’m only doing it to break my deficit but I’m going back into a deficit pretty soon. I feel like I had stalled out so I wanted to make a small adjustmentz
RockyP
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I think the Mast P was 98% yes?
Mastedon
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I also use 23g to draw (but no microwave or other form of heating)
Have you checked your prolactin levels by chance? Simple, cheap test to rule out elevated prolactin. Do you take any ssri or similar medication? The dopamine elevation will def affect the number. My baseline labs for prolactin were towards the higher side of the range from ssri use.
If its e2, thats simple fix like others have mentioned above. My suggestion would be to avoid the AI. Fix your ratios by either lowering your dosage, doing daily injections (if you arent already; dont think you specified) or lowering bf/increasing cardio. Im taking 300mg test c and e2 was at 60. Added 60mg of primo/week and e2 dropped to 34. Consider using a dht derivative to keep e2 in range if you dont want to drop test dose.
All else fails, you can fall back on aromasin or anastrozole but its adding toxicity to your cycle without contributing to your gains.
BigDadd7
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Damn. I got hard just reading that. You better get your shit together! I know primal test has tested spot on. I wonder if your other gear was over dosed. Might be time to consider a little cialis while you sort it out.
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yeah I will end up doing that I’ve never had issues with prolactin levels I usually test in the lower side to middle of the range on my labwork but not a bad idea. No ssri or any other meds. I’ll make an appt for Monday see if they can fit me in. I do two shots a week that’s usually worked the best for me I might do 3 times a week daily seems like a pain. I do have some primo I haven’t touched I’ll definitely crack that bad boy open and drop the aromasin see if it helps and get some labs done.
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