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[Turkeybuilder]

Hey @Civdiv!

I completely agree with @CHIEF M and @Turkeybuilder here. I’ve taken Cialis, viagra, MT2. I have not tried PT-141 but I will next year sometime. I’ll share my experiences below.

Cialis- It is GREAT for pumps and also slightly lowers blood pressure. I take 10mg daily- it’s great. You’re not going to get a random boner. It is easier to get hard because blood flow is better (cells walls are relaxed), but you need to be mentally aroused.

Viagra- Similar to Cialis, but you might get a little blood flowing down there for no reason. I never got random boners from it but the sides are not worth it for me. My nose immediately becomes stuffy and my vision is tinted blue. Yes, blue- it’s called cyanopsia. Never taking viagra again.

MT2- At 200mcg 3x per week I got a few random boners, nausea, loose stool, moles/dark skin. Dropped dose to 100mcg and much better. No difference in pumps, this works different than Viagra/Cialis… it’s more of a mental thing.

Hope this helps. Main takeaway is Cialis is awesome lol.

You take 100mcg of MT2, 3 times a week?

Have you considered a 250-300mcg once every 10 days (tan on those days) to maintain your current shade? Do you experience any sides from MT2? (Increased moles, darker hair, nausea)

MT2 kicks my fucking ass when I tried to do it daily or 3x a week, so now I just eat shit once every 10 days and tan an hour after I pin to maintain my skin tone.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Been there man

Jog until you get out of breath, then walk, then jog again etc etc

Ime it never gets easy, but you can slowly increase the distance, time spent jogging vs walking, etc

Yes sir I'll work on it. Cardio is definitely something i've been meaning to work on. Maybe i'll make it more of a focus after my cut (6 days left of my 12 week cut)

 

[Rogal69]

Yeah I think my leg days are still pretty good, my legs just feel beat up all week. Still trying to get the programming sorted. The echo bike/assault bike gives me a nasty quad pump right off the bat. But I do love the thing.

The walking always helps me recover I feel, plus all the other benefits. I kept it in my last few comp preps and only dropped the HIIT the last 4 weeks out from a comp. And I’d keep the assault bike relatively short, 8-10 min total will torch you in a great way, I love it lol

 

[Oldhand]

You take 100mcg of MT2, 3 times a week?

Have you considered a 250-300mcg once every 10 days (tan on those days) to maintain your current shade? Do you experience any sides from MT2? (Increased moles, darker hair, nausea)

MT2 kicks my fucking ass when I tried to do it daily or 3x a week, so now I just eat shit once every 10 days and tan an hour after I pin to maintain my skin tone.

I’m game for moving the pin dates further apart, but I’m not so happy with the idea of increasing the mcg amount.

I feel terrible (nausea) in like 10 minutes after a 200mcg pin. That lasts for about an 1/2 hour. Significantly less sides at 100mcg.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

I’m game for moving the pin dates further apart, but I’m not so happy with the idea of increasing the mcg amount.

I feel terrible (nausea) in like 10 minutes after a 200mcg pin. That lasts for about an 1/2 hour. Significantly less sides at 100mcg.

Yeah dude MT2 is absolutely fucking killer. I'm not able to eat for like 4-5 hours after I take my 250mcg pin. If what you're doing is working for you then keep on doing that obviously but if you're unhappy with sides such as constant nausea or more frequent moles popping up, you should give a bigger dose once every 10 days a try and see if that works for you. atleast less overall suffering from sides lmao

 

[Oldhand]

Yeah dude MT2 is absolutely fucking killer. I'm not able to eat for like 4-5 hours after I take my 250mcg pin. If what you're doing is working for you then keep on doing that obviously but if you're unhappy with sides such as constant nausea or more frequent moles popping up, you should give a bigger dose once every 10 days a try and see if that works for you. atleast less overall suffering from sides lmao

I’ll try the large dose E10D if the 100mcg E3D does not make me happy. I’m very, very new to MT2. I definitely have to be open to advice. Thank you.

 

[Variant82]

I happened to pick up some Primal Cialis a couple weeks ago for no good reason besides why not... My hands have never been as soft as they are today. Thank you Primal and Jergens.

 

[monster8912]

I ordered some winstrol awhile back from some lab and got a few cialis thrown in. I guess im gonna try them out for shoulders tomorrow. Either it'll be a great pump or ill spend the whole time in the bathroom.

 

[Oldhand]

I ordered some winstrol awhile back from some lab and got a few cialis thrown in. I guess im gonna try them out for shoulders tomorrow. Either it'll be a great pump or I’ll spend the whole time in the bathroom.

Cool, but be sure to look up the saturation timing. Cialis takes a while to work, that’s why you low dose it everyday. Viagra is much quicker, like a few hours.

 

[Variant82]

I ordered some winstrol awhile back from some lab and got a few cialis thrown in. I guess im gonna try them out for shoulders tomorrow. Either it'll be a great pump or ill spend the whole time in the bathroom.

National Geographic does it for me with this 10mg EOD. Nothing crazy.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

I’ll try the large dose E10D if the 100mcg E3D does not make me happy. I’m very, very new to MT2. I definitely have to be open to advice. Thank you.

I would only do the E10D once you've reached your desired skin tone. I did daily mt2 with tanning every other day until i got to the color i wanted then i've been doing this for 2 months to maintain.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Cool, but be sure to look up the saturation timing. Cialis takes a while to work, that’s why you low dose it everyday. Viagra is much quicker, like a few hours.

Cialis usually works within an hour.

 

[monster8912]

National Geographic does it for me with this 10mg EOD. Nothing crazy.

Something primal about that low hanging national geographic.

 

[Variant82]

Something primal about that low hanging national geographic.

Seriously though I did get 10mg from Primal because why not but it did 2 things. 1 make my wife slightly annoyed because I was ready to go again faster. 2nd I pissed with better flow. My prostate numbers have always been normal. But just faster taking a leak now.

 

[BigDadd7]

Cool, but be sure to look up the saturation timing. Cialis takes a while to work, that’s why you low dose it everyday. Viagra is much quicker, like a few hours.

No.

 

[ackmack78]

No.

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Anecdotally for me cialis has an onset of 2 hours. Viagra is 45 minutes

 

[Infernalmango]

Daily Tadalafil had me waking up at 3am on her leg like

 

[AllGoodThings]

You can run zero carb infinitely on reta. As long as you're hitting your protein for the day, your body will make enough glucose to power your brain and organs. Whether it can make enough BG to fuel muscle expenditure and growth at BB levels is a discussion I'll leave to the broscientists to yell at each other about (but I will say it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks).

The real danger with reta is eating too many carbs. Eating like a 90s powerlifter on vacation confuses your body - you're telling it to make more sugar but also cramming it in - and you run the risk of hyperglycemia at the end of the day, blowing out your pancreas overnight pumping out a ton of insulin to clear it out, and waking up hypoglycemic. I don't think there's much danger at 300, 400 maybe, but that will depend on your history of insulin sensitivity/resistance.

Some days I hit 250g easy, some days I'm at zero. BG stays pretty consistent.

I'm guessing this is also somewhat bodyweight dependent? 300 is low day for me, unless I'm heavily restricting calories. I'm at 1.5mg/week, but I'm going to bump to 2mg next shot

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I like to go just long enough that my wife thinks “Wow, maybe this time-“, then explode.

Mine said gimme 12 inches and hurt me... fucked her twice and smacked her in the head with a brick....

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

Still waiting on my sensitive estradiol test to come back, curious if it will match the standard test.

I'm skipping my shot for 3 days, then will start15mg a day and retest after 4 weeks.

Can't believe mine came back 90 on 200mg of test c.... even with 1mg arimidex twice a week. It was like 6 years old though....