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[Infernalmango]

If people are so worried about what they are getting, or if shit is tested or not. Send the shit off yourself. This is a ugl not a fucking walmart. Tbh if I buy something that's supposed to be 100mg/ml and its 10% underdosed im cool with it. Why? Because I don't brew. I don't want to risk brewing. If its overdosed. Great! You don't want to buy bunk gear, brew it. Giving constructive criticism is one thing, even i have made suggestions. But everyday its page after page about testing results. YOU FAT FUCK. SEND IT TO JANO YOURSELF. YOU THINK HES BULLSHITTING YOU? CALL HIM ON IT, SEND IT TO JANO. YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK AND NEED IT TESTED? SEND IT TO JANO. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO SEND ONE GODDAMN ITEM TO JANO TO CALL A SOURCE OUT, THEN TAKE YOUR BROKE ASS BACK TO EROIDS. yeah who gives a fuck if primal is possible muscle candy, axle, and whoever else? You know how many of these other companies are all affiliated and or not the same people? You actually think they are all brewing? It's called supply and demand. Yeah he might brew some things, then you beg for let's say ment. He can't source the raws so he finds a supplier with quality product and offers it to you. Not saying this is the case. But happens every day in corporations. Imaging brewing 30 different products, you wanna start your own little shop. For the sterilized equipment, shipping materials, packaging etc is a shit ton, then you guys all want the most sophisticated testing that ranges from $300-500 a test. You cheap fucks can't send one vial for $100. Go make a order, use code "blessed" buy the test e. Then use the monry you saved to send it to jano. Better yet, I'll send you a test e brand new to have it tested. It's good to hold a source accountable and make sure he continues to progress and get better, nothing wrong with that. But its never fast enough, the dosage is a bit off, my dick got little when I pinned it. I hear it all. If you want tested, safe, go to pharma. If not shut the fuck up

 

[manbat]

there was a holy war. People died.

His name was @mr.redpill
God rest his soul (and swollen ass).

 

[Nixonnow99]

If people are so worried about what they are getting, or if shit is tested or not. Send the shit off yourself. This is a ugl not a fucking walmart. Tbh if I buy something that's supposed to be 100mg/ml and its 10% underdosed im cool with it. Why? Because I don't brew. I don't want to risk brewing. If its overdosed. Great! You don't want to buy bunk gear, brew it. Giving constructive criticism is one thing, even i have made suggestions. But everyday its page after page about testing results. YOU FAT FUCK. SEND IT TO JANO YOURSELF. YOU THINK HES BULLSHITTING YOU? CALL HIM ON IT, SEND IT TO JANO. YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK AND NEED IT TESTED? SEND IT TO JANO. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO SEND ONE GODDAMN ITEM TO JANO TO CALL A SOURCE OUT, THEN TAKE YOUR BROKE ASS BACK TO EROIDS. yeah who gives a fuck if primal is possible muscle candy, axle, and whoever else? You know how many of these other companies are all affiliated and or not the same people? You actually think they are all brewing? It's called supply and demand. Yeah he might brew some things, then you beg for let's say ment. He can't source the raws so he finds a supplier with quality product and offers it to you. Not saying this is the case. But happens every day in corporations. Imaging brewing 30 different products, you wanna start your own little shop. For the sterilized equipment, shipping materials, packaging etc is a shit ton, then you guys all want the most sophisticated testing that ranges from $300-500 a test. You cheap fucks can't send one vial for $100. Go make a order, use code "blessed" buy the test e. Then use the monry you saved to send it to jano. Better yet, I'll send you a test e brand new to have it tested. It's good to hold a source accountable and make sure he continues to progress and get better, nothing wrong with that. But its never fast enough, the dosage is a bit off, my dick got little when I pinned it. I hear it all. If you want tested, safe, go to pharma. If not shut the fuck up

 

[sionnach]

His name was @mr.redpill
God rest his soul (and swollen ass).

Bro's gotta hate that we keep summoning him.

I assumed @Bandern meant our roll tide friend and that guy from the 80s TV show that got banhammered in the LOLocaust.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

If people are so worried about what they are getting, or if shit is tested or not. Send the shit off yourself. This is a ugl not a fucking walmart. Tbh if I buy something that's supposed to be 100mg/ml and its 10% underdosed im cool with it. Why? Because I don't brew. I don't want to risk brewing. If its overdosed. Great! You don't want to buy bunk gear, brew it. Giving constructive criticism is one thing, even i have made suggestions. But everyday its page after page about testing results. YOU FAT FUCK. SEND IT TO JANO YOURSELF. YOU THINK HES BULLSHITTING YOU? CALL HIM ON IT, SEND IT TO JANO. YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK AND NEED IT TESTED? SEND IT TO JANO. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO SEND ONE GODDAMN ITEM TO JANO TO CALL A SOURCE OUT, THEN TAKE YOUR BROKE ASS BACK TO EROIDS. yeah who gives a fuck if primal is possible muscle candy, axle, and whoever else? You know how many of these other companies are all affiliated and or not the same people? You actually think they are all brewing? It's called supply and demand. Yeah he might brew some things, then you beg for let's say ment. He can't source the raws so he finds a supplier with quality product and offers it to you. Not saying this is the case. But happens every day in corporations. Imaging brewing 30 different products, you wanna start your own little shop. For the sterilized equipment, shipping materials, packaging etc is a shit ton, then you guys all want the most sophisticated testing that ranges from $300-500 a test. You cheap fucks can't send one vial for $100. Go make a order, use code "blessed" buy the test e. Then use the monry you saved to send it to jano. Better yet, I'll send you a test e brand new to have it tested. It's good to hold a source accountable and make sure he continues to progress and get better, nothing wrong with that. But its never fast enough, the dosage is a bit off, my dick got little when I pinned it. I hear it all. If you want tested, safe, go to pharma. If not shut the fuck up

 

[adversi]

If people are so worried about what they are getting, or if shit is tested or not. Send the shit off yourself. This is a ugl not a fucking walmart. Tbh if I buy something that's supposed to be 100mg/ml and its 10% underdosed im cool with it. Why? Because I don't brew. I don't want to risk brewing. If its overdosed. Great! You don't want to buy bunk gear, brew it. Giving constructive criticism is one thing, even i have made suggestions. But everyday its page after page about testing results. YOU FAT FUCK. SEND IT TO JANO YOURSELF. YOU THINK HES BULLSHITTING YOU? CALL HIM ON IT, SEND IT TO JANO. YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK AND NEED IT TESTED? SEND IT TO JANO. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO SEND ONE GODDAMN ITEM TO JANO TO CALL A SOURCE OUT, THEN TAKE YOUR BROKE ASS BACK TO EROIDS. yeah who gives a fuck if primal is possible muscle candy, axle, and whoever else? You know how many of these other companies are all affiliated and or not the same people? You actually think they are all brewing? It's called supply and demand. Yeah he might brew some things, then you beg for let's say ment. He can't source the raws so he finds a supplier with quality product and offers it to you. Not saying this is the case. But happens every day in corporations. Imaging brewing 30 different products, you wanna start your own little shop. For the sterilized equipment, shipping materials, packaging etc is a shit ton, then you guys all want the most sophisticated testing that ranges from $300-500 a test. You cheap fucks can't send one vial for $100. Go make a order, use code "blessed" buy the test e. Then use the monry you saved to send it to jano. Better yet, I'll send you a test e brand new to have it tested. It's good to hold a source accountable and make sure he continues to progress and get better, nothing wrong with that. But its never fast enough, the dosage is a bit off, my dick got little when I pinned it. I hear it all. If you want tested, safe, go to pharma. If not shut the fuck up

What’s up Meso!


I’m fairly new here—more active on other forums—but I figured I’d post and get some advice from the greats in this industry.


I’ve always been a bigger-framed guy. I’m 6’0" and my weight has fluctuated between 220–300 lbs most of my life. At one point, I even hit my lowest at 186 lbs. No matter what, my body seems to want to settle back around the 240 range (I honestly believe that’s my natural “set point”).


I attached two photos:

• First photo (yellow boxers): Taken while coming off a cut cycle. The products I used were Sustanon (500–700 mg), Tren Ace (200–250 mg), and Nolva/Anadrol (as the starting oral).
• Second photo (mirror, 248 lbs): Taken after my release from prison (2021–2023).

During that first cycle, I made great progress, but I wasn’t as knowledgeable about anabolics as I am today. I had plenty of sides: gyno (as you can see), tren rage, uncontrollable sex drive, bad acne, etc. But interestingly, the more severe issues (night sweats, tren cough, bad lipids) weren’t too bad—I actually respond pretty well to tren. Back then I mostly just listened to “bro science” on forums without researching titration or considering the idea that less is often better.


Fast forward: I recently got updated bloodwork, so I have a solid baseline again. My androgen receptors and body have essentially reset since that first picture (190–200 lbs, from 2021). While locked up, I trained fairly consistently, but between commissary “pockets,” working kitchen detail, and being a store man, I definitely ate a lot of carbs (gotta love those pockets).


My current goal:
I want to get back down to the 220–230 lb range, but this time with size and definition. My approach will be “less is more”—starting low and only increasing as needed until I find the sweet spot of maximum results with minimal sides.


With all the newer information and compounds available, I’d like your advice:

• What would you change or add to my planned cycle to help me reach this goal?
• I’ll drop my planned cycle and current stats below.

Thanks, Meso. Looking forward to learning and growing with you all!
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

CURRENT BODY STATS:

AGE: 34
HEIGHT: 6'0
WEIGHT: 272 LBS. (GOAL: 230-240)
BODY FAT: 28% (GOAL: 18-20%)


PLANNED CYCLE:

WEEK 1-16: (WILL DO LONGER IF POSSIBLE WHEN I GET BLOODWORK DONE AT 15 WEEKS TO CHECK PANEL)

Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg EOD **WILL TITRATE UP SLOWLY UNTIL MAX EFFECTIVE DOSE IS REACHED**

Primobolan Enanthate - 300mg EOD (Higher E2 so didn't do 1:1) **WILL TITRATE UP SLOWLY UNTIL MAX EFFECTIVE DOSE IS REACHED**

Aromasin - 12.mg EOD

Levothyroxine T4 & Cytomel T3 **I have hypothyroidism so I use these to help regulate, I will also be dosing T3 according to help aid in fat loss.**

HGH - 2iu(slowly upping until 4-5iu max) daily before morning cardio/workout session fasted. **I was doing at night, but because we eat later when my girlfriend gets home due to work, its hard to keep glucose stable. So doing this early morning before cardio fasted, worked better for myself.**

Retatrutide (Starting dose: 2mg, titrating up slowly until max dose of 8mg is achieved)


PRODUCTS I HAVE THAT I COULD IMPLEMENT:
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Anavar - (Weeks 1-4 or 12-16 @ 20mg daily pre workout.)

Tren Ace - (Weeks 1-8 or 8-16 @ 75mg weekly) **Will not go over this dosage, Plenty of anecdotal evidence stating that lower dose trenbolgne sammichs can benefit and achieve desired results with way less negativity on your body and mental.**

Arimidex - IF NEEDED

TELMISARTAN - IF NEEDED

NPP - (Weeks 1-16 @ 100-200mg a week) *aid is size and lubrication of joints as I am older, and I tore something in my leg in prison during a softball tournament, the muscle from the bottom of my ass cheek all the way down to the back of my calf. It was black/purple/blue. Couldn't walk. Couldn't put pressure on it. Medical in prison systems is non existent. Said it was a pulled muscle. Finally healed 9-12 weeks later, and still till this day its hurts when I do cardio and basic leg exercises.

Dbol - (Weeks 1-5 to kickstart cycle @ 10-20mgs daily pre workout)

So yeah that's about it, just looking on guidance and advice on my cycle. What I could do better or adjust. I am a fairly good responder to every anabolic I provided as I have used them prior in earlier years. (NPP, PRIMO). With DBOL I generally don't hold much water and I get really good size increase and gains on 5 weeks as previously used in other cycles. I am not looking to purely lose weight, but gain increasing size and mass during these winter times and in the summer full cut down with all that increased lean mass. Thank you so much for your insights and help!

Who are you calling fat with that introduction post wtf. 700mg sustanon, 250mg tren a, anadrol, and you looked like that?

 

[CHIEF M]

Hold on a sec. Test Ace I just read can make you Barney as a side effect holy shit. @CHIEF M

Yeah whatever that retard meant lol

 

[DeafJam]

I said I want second batch test e TESTING. I DONT want free gear lol. Relax.

How would that even make sense. I want gear from a batch that’s sold out?

Make a typo and people want to nail you. Lmfao. Quick to type now, but won’t say a word to support me while calling primal out. Don’t come out to play now.

It isn’t that people don’t want to support you, it is that you could simply send a vial off for testing and have an answer you can trust as I don’t think you would trust a result Primal gave you right now. You’ve made a no win situation that Primal has played some part in.

Shit happens in these markets. These are small operations pushing volume. Maybe you are right, and Primal is just a big scam. Maybe Primal is right. Maybe it is somewhere in the middle. If you test, you know for sure.

 

[ANAL_Bolic]

No no. No Test E batch ever went out that wasn't tested.

First ever batch was 001. Had that until the latest drop in September. Newest and second only drop of Test E is P11. I mentioned sending it in ealry-mid September only to realize I never sent it out. So that's when it was sent out this month.

So i have 10 bottles of Test E 250mg batch P10. Are you saying thats the 001 first batch? Im confused

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

If people are so worried about what they are getting, or if shit is tested or not. Send the shit off yourself. This is a ugl not a fucking walmart. Tbh if I buy something that's supposed to be 100mg/ml and its 10% underdosed im cool with it. Why? Because I don't brew. I don't want to risk brewing. If its overdosed. Great! You don't want to buy bunk gear, brew it. Giving constructive criticism is one thing, even i have made suggestions. But everyday its page after page about testing results. YOU FAT FUCK. SEND IT TO JANO YOURSELF. YOU THINK HES BULLSHITTING YOU? CALL HIM ON IT, SEND IT TO JANO. YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK AND NEED IT TESTED? SEND IT TO JANO. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO SEND ONE GODDAMN ITEM TO JANO TO CALL A SOURCE OUT, THEN TAKE YOUR BROKE ASS BACK TO EROIDS. yeah who gives a fuck if primal is possible muscle candy, axle, and whoever else? You know how many of these other companies are all affiliated and or not the same people? You actually think they are all brewing? It's called supply and demand. Yeah he might brew some things, then you beg for let's say ment. He can't source the raws so he finds a supplier with quality product and offers it to you. Not saying this is the case. But happens every day in corporations. Imaging brewing 30 different products, you wanna start your own little shop. For the sterilized equipment, shipping materials, packaging etc is a shit ton, then you guys all want the most sophisticated testing that ranges from $300-500 a test. You cheap fucks can't send one vial for $100. Go make a order, use code "blessed" buy the test e. Then use the monry you saved to send it to jano. Better yet, I'll send you a test e brand new to have it tested. It's good to hold a source accountable and make sure he continues to progress and get better, nothing wrong with that. But its never fast enough, the dosage is a bit off, my dick got little when I pinned it. I hear it all. If you want tested, safe, go to pharma. If not shut the fuck up

Hey dick head, if you think this is about testing you’re an idiot.

It’s about pattern recognition and habitual behavior.

I swear some of you have winter temp IQ. You don’t belong on forums. Put the tren down, the brain plaque is building up.

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

Hey dick head, if you think this is about testing you’re an idiot.

It’s about pattern recognition and habitual behavior.

I swear some of you have winter temp IQ. You don’t belong on forums.

So it’s not about the testing but testing will make it better? Nobody understands what you want

 

[DoubleDeez]

He had an unreasonable amount of people legitimately hate him for what he’s done. I never understood it.

Having watched all that, my approach is more aggressive.

I went to bat for him on multiple occasions when he was on his crusade and people were giving him shit, but I’m gonna guess he was in your DMs yesterday, combing through my post dates and analyzing my words, brainstorming with you about why I’m a shill. Why aren’t all the people talking shit in your DMs speaking up publicly here too? The gossipy men in here remind me of my time spent in Facebook mom groups years ago lol.

 

[Bandern]

YOU GOT A LITTLE DICK

It’s called a Clenis and they’re in style right now you tone deaf nincompoop

 

[MisterT]

So i have 10 bottles of Test E 250mg batch P10. Are you saying thats the 001 first batch? Im confused

When did you buy it? I bought mine towards end of Sept and it's labeled p10 but obviously that isn't possible to be batch 001.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

So it’s not about the testing but testing will make it better? Nobody understands what you want

More low IQ shilling. Here’s a nice breakdown.

Well @Bandern If you take the Test E, 2 untested batches situation, with compiled excuses.

And combine that with OTHER on going situations…...

-Violet tops being marketed and sold as “premium” WITHOUT prior testing to back claims (actions show money superseded standing behind a true premium product). And purity testing LOWER than your “standard” GH lol.

-Anadrol coming in 50% under (which has now been revealed that it was through third-party testing. So primal couldn’t avoid disclosing this to you guys.) Were the 25s sent in to confirm they aren’t 12.5?

-Test 50 having a 25% overage, and a 15% variance between “same batch testing”.


It looks to me like we have a testing issue going on here. Both with what’s being tested, and getting actual testing completed.


Who’s brewing?


Keep making jokes and poking me (primal included), and I won’t let this go.

This is acceptable behavior for a FOUR MONTH old source? This is the meso standard these days?

You’re some desperate gear junkies if you defend this shit.

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

. Why aren’t all the people talking shit in your DMs speaking up publicly here too? The gossipy men in here remind me of my time spent in Facebook mom groups years ago lol.

they’re in his head

If not and they really exist and they’re in someone’s DM thanking them for speaking up on an Internet forum for them that’s super sad

 

[ChoZeN1]

Who are you calling fat with that introduction post wtf. 700mg sustanon, 250mg tren a, anadrol, and you looked like that?

Its funny how you get upset and wanna bring looks into play. Your probably the broke bitch who can't send anything off to jano.

 

[ANAL_Bolic]

When did you buy it? I bought mine towards end of Sept and it's labeled p10 but obviously that isn't possible to be batch 001.

sept 28 and oct 3 was my 2 orders that contained P10 batch

 

[BigDadd7]

I meant your crusade has been more well received. May just be cuz certain accounts went to the gas chamber. Idk just calling balls and strikes

100% this

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

they’re in his head

If not and they really exist and they’re in someone’s DM thanking them for speaking up on an Internet forum for them that’s super sad

Not my job to make someone speak or not. I am.


Shame when you try to discredit me, and I have proof. Not a good look for you.

I told you to keep quiet and stop talking to me. Anytime you do, it looks bad on you and primal.