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People were upset that Chinese made primo probably from one of the two 3 letter vendors was resold by Primal? Trying to understand why that upset some people cause I see people running that Chinese primo without filtering it no problems at all.

I like Primal and if that's the biggest gripe people have, it isn't a big deal to me at least.
 
People were upset that Chinese made primo probably from one of the two 3 letter vendors was resold by Primal? Trying to understand why that upset some people cause I see people running that Chinese primo without filtering it no problems at all.

I like Primal and if that's the biggest gripe people have, it isn't a big deal to me at least.
If that’s why you think ppl were upset then go back and read. It’s about being up front and honest.
 
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Ordered a little bit of EQ. I’ll put this back in the mix starting in April.

Eager to see how it looks. I have not read any back reports on Primal’s EQ so seems like a safe bet.
 
I like Primal and if that's the biggest gripe people have, it isn't a big deal to me at least.
What your missing is, if he lied about that, what else is he lying about?
We only know about the primo because members hounded the absolute shit out of him.

Had he realized, being up front is the best reputation he can have.
Lying only taints your reputation and credibility, and will forever be mentioned now.

All he had to do was “hey guys would you like some cn primo? I can re-filter it and put it in nicer glass with good toppers”

Instead we got
“Hey guys we have primo…. Oh where did we get it? Found a few raws behind my book shelf…. Oh why didnt we test the raws? We were excited to get the product out…”


It is crazy to me this source is still in business, people buying from him.
Old meso would have ate him for lunch…. But too many dumb fuck broccoli heads just wanting the cheapest source not caring about anything
 
People were upset that Chinese made primo probably from one of the two 3 letter vendors was resold by Primal? Trying to understand why that upset some people cause I see people running that Chinese primo without filtering it no problems at all.

I like Primal and if that's the biggest gripe people have, it isn't a big deal to me at least.
It’s clear you haven’t taken the time to educate yourself on this or any of the other issues. And I’m not here to babysit you, so do your thing. But what concerns me is when people like you spread your ignorance on these forums and then other people see your ill-informed comments and take them as fact.
 
Man I’ve been wondering. How come all these other vendors treat me like absolute dog shit but primal is so nice? Well I think it’s because all you old timers beat them into a state of constant defense. I hope that doesn’t happen to primal.

Just a note, simply because you’ve been around a steroid forum for a long time doesn’t make you a special guy. Or really useful in any way. So many of your posts read like pretentious dickhead “old timers”. I had thought the purpose of this forum was harm reduction? All I see you “old timers” do is berate the new guys for not knowing enough, having bad cycle plans, not being good with crypto, being old, being young, being fat, being skinny... I could go on ad infinitum. As if you douche buckets were born with all the worlds knowledge tied up in a bow and didn’t start your first cycle until you’d reached your absolute natural potential and only used as you were prepping for contest. Fucking get over yourselves and maybe actually try to help by being useful and kind.

As a former addict with over 10 years recovery from meth and heroin I can tell you that treating new guys like shit is a pretty retarded way of going about harm reduction. Maybe take a tip from guys who have succeeded in that area. I spend 7 days a week actually saving dudes lives after working all day as an engineer by going into hospitals and rehabs and reaching out with a message of hope. I found my brother dead many years ago. Steroids are very different from drugs like heroin, but many of the substances people use here could potentially kill you just as easily. It is life and death here. You win people’s hearts before you can get to their minds. Remember that. But if y’all just want this forum to be a pseudo intellectual wannabe pharmacological dick measuring contest, I’m happy to peace out.

I could really give a shit less about what you think of me but I do care that the newer folks here receive welcome and knowledge. Fuck it’s tiring here.
 
Man I’ve been wondering. How come all these other vendors treat me like absolute dog shit but primal is so nice? Well I think it’s because all you old timers beat them into a state of constant defense. I hope that doesn’t happen to primal.

Just a note, simply because you’ve been around a steroid forum for a long time doesn’t make you a special guy. Or really useful in any way. So many of your posts read like pretentious dickhead “old timers”. I had thought the purpose of this forum was harm reduction? All I see you “old timers” do is berate the new guys for not knowing enough, having bad cycle plans, not being good with crypto, being old, being young, being fat, being skinny... I could go on ad infinitum. As if you douche buckets were born with all the worlds knowledge tied up in a bow and didn’t start your first cycle until you’d reached your absolute natural potential and only used as you were prepping for contest. Fucking get over yourselves and maybe actually try to help by being useful and kind.

As a former addict with over 10 years recovery from meth and heroin I can tell you that treating new guys like shit is a pretty retarded way of going about harm reduction. Maybe take a tip from guys who have succeeded in that area. I spend 7 days a week actually saving dudes lives after working all day as an engineer by going into hospitals and rehabs and reaching out with a message of hope. I found my brother dead many years ago. Steroids are very different from drugs like heroin, but many of the substances people use here could potentially kill you just as easily. It is life and death here. You win people’s hearts before you can get to their minds. Remember that. But if y’all just want this forum to be a pseudo intellectual wannabe pharmacological dick measuring contest, I’m happy to peace out.

I could really give a shit less about what you think of me but I do care that the newer folks here receive welcome and knowledge. Fuck it’s tiring here.
Not sure who this is directed at, but since I’ve had some recent critical responses, I’ll assume it may, in part, be me…

I’m not an “old-timer”. I joined this board about 4 months ago, which is around the time I started my journey with injectable AAS, GH, and peptides. I’ve learned a tremendous amount during that time and it’s, in large part, thanks to helpful and knowledgeable community members. Did I get my balls busted a couple of times, sure. But I’m a big boy and I just kept it moving.

I would challenge you to review my comment history and find an example of what you are claiming. And if you do, weigh that against the other comments where I’ve provided helpful, useful, and reasonably-informed feedback to other community members.

Myself and I’m certain some of the other “old-timers” are frustrated by the recent (and remember, I’ve only been here four months) influx of new members seemingly unwilling to do a little digging for information and viewing ALL of these sources with a healthy amount of skepticism, yet more than willing to glaze a source because they get freebies or they’re cheap or cool, or a variety of reasons that mean very little in the grand scheme. Not Primal, not any vendor on this board is your friend. You cannot rely on them. That is what the community exists for for.

I promise you, if you check your ego at the door and actually try to become a part of the community, you will get more and maybe even start contributing and caring more about what happens here.
 
I see that EQ 500 is in stock. I thought you were doing away with that and making EQ 300 in GSO instead. Is their any testing for the EQ 500 in MCT?
 
Man I’ve been wondering. How come all these other vendors treat me like absolute dog shit but primal is so nice? Well I think it’s because all you old timers beat them into a state of constant defense. I hope that doesn’t happen to primal.

Just a note, simply because you’ve been around a steroid forum for a long time doesn’t make you a special guy. Or really useful in any way. So many of your posts read like pretentious dickhead “old timers”. I had thought the purpose of this forum was harm reduction? All I see you “old timers” do is berate the new guys for not knowing enough, having bad cycle plans, not being good with crypto, being old, being young, being fat, being skinny... I could go on ad infinitum. As if you douche buckets were born with all the worlds knowledge tied up in a bow and didn’t start your first cycle until you’d reached your absolute natural potential and only used as you were prepping for contest. Fucking get over yourselves and maybe actually try to help by being useful and kind.

As a former addict with over 10 years recovery from meth and heroin I can tell you that treating new guys like shit is a pretty retarded way of going about harm reduction. Maybe take a tip from guys who have succeeded in that area. I spend 7 days a week actually saving dudes lives after working all day as an engineer by going into hospitals and rehabs and reaching out with a message of hope. I found my brother dead many years ago. Steroids are very different from drugs like heroin, but many of the substances people use here could potentially kill you just as easily. It is life and death here. You win people’s hearts before you can get to their minds. Remember that. But if y’all just want this forum to be a pseudo intellectual wannabe pharmacological dick measuring contest, I’m happy to peace out.

I could really give a shit less about what you think of me but I do care that the newer folks here receive welcome and knowledge. Fuck it’s tiring here.
Couple things to address here.

1. Old timers are harsh on vendors to hold them accountable, not to beat up on them for fun. These are drug dealers, we are drug buyers. They aren’t your friend. They don’t give af about you. Promise. There was a time when vendors pulled a lot more shady shit and it’s thanks to the constant berating of the old timers that we have somewhat trustworthy sources these days. But also trust it will revert back if alls these new members do is dick ride these guys.

2. The “purpose” of this forum being harm reduction doesn’t include spoon feeding answers to every stupid question. Guys are fucking with their hormones/health, they need to learn to do an adequate amount of research about shit to make decisions for themselves and not solely rely on anecdotes from strangers on the internet.

3. Chill out with the white knight hero act. You swapped heroine and meth for steroids. You still do drugs. You “saving” people 7 days a week? Give me a break lmao you sound like a douche bucket too so take your own advice and get over yourself. A lot of these new member profiles are straight disrespectful regarded kids. If you were a dope fiend for 10yrs thats obviously not you, but the stigma against new members isn’t completely unwarranted.

Come in, introduce yourself, be humble, contribute where you can. Alls it takes.
 
Man I’ve been wondering. How come all these other vendors treat me like absolute dog shit but primal is so nice? Well I think it’s because all you old timers beat them into a state of constant defense. I hope that doesn’t happen to primal.

Just a note, simply because you’ve been around a steroid forum for a long time doesn’t make you a special guy. Or really useful in any way. So many of your posts read like pretentious dickhead “old timers”. I had thought the purpose of this forum was harm reduction? All I see you “old timers” do is berate the new guys for not knowing enough, having bad cycle plans, not being good with crypto, being old, being young, being fat, being skinny... I could go on ad infinitum. As if you douche buckets were born with all the worlds knowledge tied up in a bow and didn’t start your first cycle until you’d reached your absolute natural potential and only used as you were prepping for contest. Fucking get over yourselves and maybe actually try to help by being useful and kind.

As a former addict with over 10 years recovery from meth and heroin I can tell you that treating new guys like shit is a pretty retarded way of going about harm reduction. Maybe take a tip from guys who have succeeded in that area. I spend 7 days a week actually saving dudes lives after working all day as an engineer by going into hospitals and rehabs and reaching out with a message of hope. I found my brother dead many years ago. Steroids are very different from drugs like heroin, but many of the substances people use here could potentially kill you just as easily. It is life and death here. You win people’s hearts before you can get to their minds. Remember that. But if y’all just want this forum to be a pseudo intellectual wannabe pharmacological dick measuring contest, I’m happy to peace out.

I could really give a shit less about what you think of me but I do care that the newer folks here receive welcome and knowledge. Fuck it’s tiring here.
I quit reading after meth and heroin addict. Last person I’m going to listen to.
 
Couple things to address here.

1. Old timers are harsh on vendors to hold them accountable, not to beat up on them for fun. These are drug dealers, we are drug buyers. They aren’t your friend. They don’t give af about you. Promise. There was a time when vendors pulled a lot more shady shit and it’s thanks to the constant berating of the old timers that we have somewhat trustworthy sources these days. But also trust it will revert back if alls these new members do is dick ride these guys.

2. The “purpose” of this forum being harm reduction doesn’t include spoon feeding answers to every stupid question. Guys are fucking with their hormones/health, they need to learn to do an adequate amount of research about shit to make decisions for themselves and not solely rely on anecdotes from strangers on the internet.

3. Chill out with the white knight hero act. You swapped heroine and meth for steroids. You still do drugs. You “saving” people 7 days a week? Give me a break lmao you sound like a douche bucket too so take your own advice and get over yourself. A lot of these new member profiles are straight disrespectful regarded kids. If you were a dope fiend for 10yrs thats obviously not you, but the stigma against new members isn’t completely unwarranted.

Come in, introduce yourself, be humble, contribute where you can. Alls it takes.
Well said
 
Couple things to address here.

1. Old timers are harsh on vendors to hold them accountable, not to beat up on them for fun. These are drug dealers, we are drug buyers. They aren’t your friend. They don’t give af about you. Promise. There was a time when vendors pulled a lot more shady shit and it’s thanks to the constant berating of the old timers that we have somewhat trustworthy sources these days. But also trust it will revert back if alls these new members do is dick ride these guys.

2. The “purpose” of this forum being harm reduction doesn’t include spoon feeding answers to every stupid question. Guys are fucking with their hormones/health, they need to learn to do an adequate amount of research about shit to make decisions for themselves and not solely rely on anecdotes from strangers on the internet.

3. Chill out with the white knight hero act. You swapped heroine and meth for steroids. You still do drugs. You “saving” people 7 days a week? Give me a break lmao you sound like a douche bucket too so take your own advice and get over yourself. A lot of these new member profiles are straight disrespectful regarded kids. If you were a dope fiend for 10yrs thats obviously not you, but the stigma against new members isn’t completely unwarranted.

Come in, introduce yourself, be humble, contribute where you can. Alls it takes.
1. I’m not against holding drug dealers accountable. But supply and demand is the driver of production and quality over time regardless of legality. Berating them as vile drug dealers as you buy their drugs I imagine sours the relationship. With this particular instance of primal testing, outside of the primo issue it hardly holds a candle to the shit I see from other vendors.

2. I stand by you win hearts before minds.

3. Haha, yes I can be a bit of a douche sometimes. I’m working on it. But yeah you should assume newcomers are retarded. But you don’t need to treat them like they are. If ya can’t say something productive why say it at all. Saying “you’re a fucking moron your cycle is dumb and you’re dumber” is not going to inspire anyone to read more. It’s likely going to have them return to gym locker room advice and stick to their retarded cycle.
 
Couple things to address here.

1. Old timers are harsh on vendors to hold them accountable, not to beat up on them for fun. These are drug dealers, we are drug buyers. They aren’t your friend. They don’t give af about you. Promise. There was a time when vendors pulled a lot more shady shit and it’s thanks to the constant berating of the old timers that we have somewhat trustworthy sources these days. But also trust it will revert back if alls these new members do is dick ride these guys.

2. The “purpose” of this forum being harm reduction doesn’t include spoon feeding answers to every stupid question. Guys are fucking with their hormones/health, they need to learn to do an adequate amount of research about shit to make decisions for themselves and not solely rely on anecdotes from strangers on the internet.

3. Chill out with the white knight hero act. You swapped heroine and meth for steroids. You still do drugs. You “saving” people 7 days a week? Give me a break lmao you sound like a douche bucket too so take your own advice and get over yourself. A lot of these new member profiles are straight disrespectful regarded kids. If you were a dope fiend for 10yrs thats obviously not you, but the stigma against new members isn’t completely unwarranted.

Come in, introduce yourself, be humble, contribute where you can. Alls it takes.
1. I’m not against holding drug dealers accountable. But supply and demand is the driver of production and quality over time regardless of legality. Berating them as vile drug dealers as you buy their drugs I imagine sours the relationship. With this particular instance of primal testing, outside of the primo issue it hardly holds a candle to the shit I see from other vendors.

2. I stand by you win hearts before minds.

3. Haha, yes I can be a bit of a douche sometimes. I’m working on it. But yeah you should assume newcomers are retarded. But you don’t need to treat them like they are. If ya can’t say something productive why say it at all. Saying “you’re a fucking moron your cycle is dumb and you’re dumber” is not going to inspire anyone to read more. It’s likely going to have them return to gym locker room advice and stick to their retarded cycle
Not sure who this is directed at, but since I’ve had some recent critical responses, I’ll assume it may, in part, be me…

I’m not an “old-timer”. I joined this board about 4 months ago, which is around the time I started my journey with injectable AAS, GH, and peptides. I’ve learned a tremendous amount during that time and it’s, in large part, thanks to helpful and knowledgeable community members. Did I get my balls busted a couple of times, sure. But I’m a big boy and I just kept it moving.

I would challenge you to review my comment history and find an example of what you are claiming. And if you do, weigh that against the other comments where I’ve provided helpful, useful, and reasonably-informed feedback to other community members.

Myself and I’m certain some of the other “old-timers” are frustrated by the recent (and remember, I’ve only been here four months) influx of new members seemingly unwilling to do a little digging for information and viewing ALL of these sources with a healthy amount of skepticism, yet more than willing to glaze a source because they get freebies or they’re cheap or cool, or a variety of reasons that mean very little in the grand scheme. Not Primal, not any vendor on this board is your friend. You cannot rely on them. That is what the community exists for for.

I promise you, if you check your ego at the door and actually try to become a part of the community, you will get more and maybe even start contributing and caring more about what happens here.
i was not calling you out. I was replying to the general attitude I’m seeing.
 
Man I’ve been wondering. How come all these other vendors treat me like absolute dog shit but primal is so nice? Well I think it’s because all you old timers beat them into a state of constant defense. I hope that doesn’t happen to primal.

Just a note, simply because you’ve been around a steroid forum for a long time doesn’t make you a special guy. Or really useful in any way. So many of your posts read like pretentious dickhead “old timers”. I had thought the purpose of this forum was harm reduction? All I see you “old timers” do is berate the new guys for not knowing enough, having bad cycle plans, not being good with crypto, being old, being young, being fat, being skinny... I could go on ad infinitum. As if you douche buckets were born with all the worlds knowledge tied up in a bow and didn’t start your first cycle until you’d reached your absolute natural potential and only used as you were prepping for contest. Fucking get over yourselves and maybe actually try to help by being useful and kind.

As a former addict with over 10 years recovery from meth and heroin I can tell you that treating new guys like shit is a pretty retarded way of going about harm reduction. Maybe take a tip from guys who have succeeded in that area. I spend 7 days a week actually saving dudes lives after working all day as an engineer by going into hospitals and rehabs and reaching out with a message of hope. I found my brother dead many years ago. Steroids are very different from drugs like heroin, but many of the substances people use here could potentially kill you just as easily. It is life and death here. You win people’s hearts before you can get to their minds. Remember that. But if y’all just want this forum to be a pseudo intellectual wannabe pharmacological dick measuring contest, I’m happy to peace out.

I could really give a shit less about what you think of me but I do care that the newer folks here receive welcome and knowledge. Fuck it’s tiring here.

Then leave it, contribute to harm reduction or start a thread with your harm reduction questions. What we don’t need is another guy coming onto a thread whose highlight of the source is quick shipping. I give zero fucks about quick shipping. The “new” members get berated because they pay to come onto a thread and post nonsense instead of talking the time to read how this forum works. Yeah some dudes are assholes to new members and some people are just sensitive to criticism. I actually had reached full potential before touching gear and that is often the advice I give. If a cycle is trash telling someone it’s trash is harm reduction. Yes 400mg a week of tren E isn’t smart. Now name one vendor that treats you like dog shit and how exactly. Go start a thread and let’s talk about it. Let’s get in their ass also. But the constant overlooking of issues by members of any source is bullshit. I don’t know maybe you aren’t familiar with the old sources on here that didn’t do 25 percent of the shit that goes on in here that got ran off. But people are so concerned they can’t do their fitness without gear, or lose weight or whatever else they just ignore and want to bust the select handful of people left trying to keep this forum as it once was and your post is an exact example of the new age members that don’t get or understand the history of Meso. It’s not about how long someone’s been on Meso it’s what is changing and what Meso will soon become. If the community wants this to turn into a board of sources that go unchecked then so be it I guess. Great job getting sober off the hard stuff but all youve done is trade one addiction for another just like the rest of us.
 
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