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[justanoob]

Should have noted that last shot was on the 18th (Thurs) with blood drawn on the 22nd (Mon).

I have a family history of type 2 diabetes, and I definitely enjoy more sweets than I should. Improving my egfr, a1c, and LDL are my new focus.

Reta, Slu, and astragalus brought my egfr up from 80 to 101 in a few weeks.
Edit: added picture

 

[Ouch]

Do you recall your Body composition? The urban legend on mast is true, meaning that the hardening / drying out look is totally lost unless you’re down at 10-12% bf or less.

Yes, Im already pretty slim…Id guess close to that range but no scans or tests. And already vascular with ab veins visable…so maybe that was my part of it.

I was honestly just hoping for some E2 control the way I use low dose Primo…and it did absolutely nothing. In fact I got a bad gyno flare up and really ended up screwing up my cycle.

But it’s all good- no big negative sides and you live and learn. That’s the only way to find out what works for your personal chemistry

 

[Ouch]

Crazy how one things work differently in everyone. For me Mast does great things cosmetically, so I save it for cuts. I don’t use it for any other purpose, but man…. Nothing I’ve found gives the same look mast can achieve

Yes it def is crazy how all our personal body chemistries respond so different. I feel the same way about Primo as you do about Mast.

200mgs in the background allows me to push the test as high as I want, gives me almost immediate and noticeable strength increases in all major lifts, and I don’t seem to hold any water on it.

The only downside is I struggle to eat on it, which sucks. And also the ear and back hair lol

 

[darkdays]

Same here. But opposite results. I ran Mast around 200-225mg along with 300T for about 16 weeks and it did fuck all for me. Literally the only compound I’ve ever tried that had zero noticeable effects. Meanwhile I can run Primo at 100-200mgs with same amount of Test and see incredible strength gains.

i may or may not have taken the mast with either 10g var pre workout or 20mg wini pre workout.... both those orals, well an y oral really has worked drastically for me wether it be for strength , density, size, or speed/vertical etc

 

[darkdays]

Then get off gear. If your test is shot then TRT only. You obviously need to learn how to get more disciplined considering you already have a family history of issues. Get your diet correct then try again. Everyone wants to run gear but it doesnt overcome crap diet and just makes things worse.

always can expect someone on meso to call it as it is

 

[Ouch]

Has anyone asked Primal how it is that he was able to obtain raws that most of the other long time vendors haven’t?

Obv not going to give us sources, but doesnt anyone else find it at least a little curious?

Maybe Im just being paranoid here, but when some OG’s like Stan and Opti are completely out but a newer vendor is stocked up…I get at least a little curious myself.

 

[justanoob]

Has anyone asked Primal how it is that he was able to obtain raws that most of the other long time vendors haven’t?

Obv not going to give us sources, but doesnt anyone else find it at least a little curious?

Maybe Im just being paranoid here, but when some OG’s like Stan and Opti are completely out but a newer vendor is stocked up…I get at least a little curious myself.

I believe Opti said he will have injectable and tabs early Jan? As far as Stan goes I’m not sure what’s going on with that I’d think he’d have the best connections since he’s been in the game so long but who knows

 

[RockyP]

Has anyone asked Primal how it is that he was able to obtain raws that most of the other long time vendors haven’t?

Obv not going to give us sources, but doesnt anyone else find it at least a little curious?

Maybe Im just being paranoid here, but when some OG’s like Stan and Opti are completely out but a newer vendor is stocked up…I get at least a little curious myself.

There are some who think primal is part of a three headed monster which, all in, does a LOT of volume. That level of buying power can be advantageous in periods of shortages. I do believe at some point in this Greek tragedy of a thread Primal stated that they saw these shortages coming and loaded up in raw prior to their launch. They have in fact felt the pinch like everyone else. And aside from the recent mistake of selling finished Chinese primo, I don’t seen them really separating themselves from other vendors. They were out of test and EQ for a while when smaller vendors had plenty. They had (have) some expensive stuff like Halo available, which is a vendor preference on whether or not to carry something like that. And their mast P and E have / are set to land (previously landed) around the same time as other vendors. So as usual, a long winded post from me that gives you no answers. I very much appreciate their upgraded hardware and commitment to using mig812 moving forward. Those are features that can help set them apart. Downside is that they are a bit over exposed. I’m told their name is all over Reddit and if that’s the case, TikTok can’t be far behind. My hope is that they go private sooner than later.

 

[Dial It In]

There are some who think primal is part of a three headed monster which, all in, does a LOT of volume. That level of buying power can be advantageous in periods of shortages. I do believe at some point in this Greek tragedy of a thread Primal stated that they saw these shortages coming and loaded up in raw prior to their launch. They have in fact felt the pinch like everyone else. And aside from the recent mistake of selling finished Chinese primo, I don’t seen them really separating themselves from other vendors. They were out of test and EQ for a while when smaller vendors had plenty. They had (have) some expensive stuff like Halo available, which is a vendor preference on whether or not to carry something like that. And their mast P and E have / are set to land (previously landed) around the same time as other vendors. So as usual, a long winded post from me that gives you no answers. I very much appreciate their upgraded hardware and commitment to using mig812 moving forward. Those are features that can help set them apart. Downside is that they are a bit over exposed. I’m told their name is all over Reddit and if that’s the case, TikTok can’t be far behind. My hope is that they go private sooner than later.

It’s already on tik tok and discord