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[Photon]

Would it be possible that a less refined MCT could possibly still have Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid in it? I really appreciate your investment for harm reduction @Photon truly i am learning a lot from you and in no way see this as an attack or defending primal but i'm wondering about the quality of the "pure MCT" being used. It doesn't explain the doseage variance tho which really needs to be tighter. If this doesn't make sense disregard because i'm no chemist nor have the experience

No, they are components found in vegtable oils.

 

[dinfaralt]

I get that, and I’m not calling you or him a liar at all. I genuinely think he believes what he’s posting.

I’m just being straight when I say this is literally impossible on our end. It couldn’t happen intentionally or accidentally, there’s no scenario where we could have CN oils besides that one Primo P11, enter our workflow. Makes zero sense.

I’m not trying to deflect or shift blame here, which I know I have in the past. I’m just stating, very VERY plainly, that this one makes absolute zero sense.

ok

show your half ton mct oil and brewing equipment and filtering system + kilos of raw powders that can crack out the volume you're doing + a paper with primal pharma 2026.01.14

the tests are showing a different story.

where is your setup?

 

[Photon]

ok

show your half ton mct oil and brewing equipment and filtering system + kilos of raw powders that can crack out the volume you're doing + a paper with primal pharma 2026.01.14

the tests are showing a different story.

where is your setup?

go disturb ur aasraw rep lol

 

[dinfaralt]

go disturb ur aasraw rep lol

she has succesfully shipped my 1kg raw powder already!

it kinda looks white on the picture i hope it matches when it shows up and tests good

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Would it be possible that a less refined MCT could possibly still have Hexadecanoic & Octadecenoic acid in it? I really appreciate your investment for harm reduction @Photon truly i am learning a lot from you and in no way see this as an attack or defending primal but i'm wondering about the quality of the "pure MCT" being used. It doesn't explain the doseage variance tho which really needs to be tighter. If this doesn't make sense disregard because i'm no chemist nor have the experience

We haven't even changed sources for our MCT or GSO. Thank God I got these sent in. This is what we've been using

Our MCT - Janoshik Analytical

 

[glpfun]

Ok look another vendor that is a walking red flag and people can’t seem to figure it out lmao he already relabeled something once, that’s just when he got caught, you think yall just caught him the first time? lol

 

[Dial It In]

We haven't even changed sources for our MCT or GSO. Thank God I got these sent in. This is what we've been using

Our MCT - Janoshik Analytical

Cmon brother I can order a jug of that and send in a sample. Doesn’t mean I have it for brewing. @dinfaralt gave you a good tip. Every single domestic source has done it. It puts one thing to bed at least.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

ok

show your half ton mct oil and brewing equipment and filtering system + kilos of raw powders that can crack out the volume you're doing + a paper with primal pharma 2026.01.14

the tests are showing a different story.

where is your setup?

Cmon brother I can order a jug of that and send in a sample. Doesn’t mean I have it for brewing. @dinfaralt gave you a good tip. Every single domestic source has done it. It puts one thing to bed at least.

We're not allowed to post pictures anymore besides lab reports. If there's somewhere I can post I will, safely.

 

[dinfaralt]

We're not allowed to post pictures anymore besides lab reports. If there's somewhere I can post I will, safely.

you have a website, nobody stopping you from uploading there.

or a simple link

 

[Dial It In]

We're not allowed to post pictures anymore besides lab reports. If there's somewhere I can post I will, safely.

Who says? @Millard @MESO-Rx Administrator. I know GIFs are a no go for you. If it’s so then it’s so.

 

[Photon]

I dont see how posting lab photos is going to help..anyone can resell China oils, with or without lab equipment.

We can wait for that guy to come back and ask him for the vial/batch pictures and get some 3rd party testers to send theirs in..or something. I think he sent it for other tests, sterility, metals? and god knows what?

I assume he'll be back?

 

[dinfaralt]

I dont see how posting lab photos is going to help..anyone can resell China oils, with or without lab equipment.

We can wait for that guy to come back and ask him for the vial/batch pictures and get some 3rd party testers to send theirs in..or something

im just interested if he actually has 500 liters of mct oil and tens of kilo of raw powder laying around.

obviously he will be exposed pretty quickly if he has a cheap setup and not insane volume with dates from today

 

[TanFishMan]

I’m on mobile so maybe I missed it. Was the NPP a full sealed vial? I thought reimbursement was sealed vial only for awhile now. Would eliminate sabotage suspicions

 

[AllGoodThings]

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If someone wants a boutique, ultra-low-volume shop, that’s fine, but it’s going to cost more. We move real numbers, and at this level it’s impossible to make everyone happy overnight. This shit takes time, and most people can’t even follow a thread properly, let alone run a UGL at this level.

Here are two popular, lower volume, "boutique" sources from right here on Meso. Prices seem pretty darn competitive with yours from what I can see. I'll grant you that your frequent sales and 20% off for $500 plus orders is something to factor in, however almost all of the products from both of these sources are 12ml's, which is exactly 20% more than your 10ml vials, effectively eliminating that price advantage you'd have during sales and with larger orders, and that's always applicable when buying from these other guys because they have no minimum threshold for that 20%

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Cmon brother I can order a jug of that and send in a sample. Doesn’t mean I have it for brewing. @dinfaralt gave you a good tip. Every single domestic source has done it. It puts one thing to bed at least.

Brother you're smart, so let's think about this lol. If we were reselling CN oils, we’d make way less money, SIGNIFICANTLY less. If that’s what we were doing, we’d have full stock on everything because reselling is easy. But we don’t. Haven't even had Test E for months, Mast, DHB, we didn't even have EQ for a while. There's also no way we could ship as fast as we do.

The only reason Primo was ever resold is because everyone was screaming for it at the time. I just didn’t know those oils were brewed with shit. Thanks for that @Photon. Lesson learned. Literally only did that because I thought we were doing everyone a favor.

Also why the hell would I buy a jug of MCT, send it in for GCMS, and then turn around and resell CN oils? I already take long enough sending in our own stuff. That makes zero sense. Half of you act like detectives and the other half clearly want to see us fail. Anyone who thinks something like that wouldn’t get exposed is just kidding themselves.

 

[dinfaralt]

Brother you're smart, so let's think about this lol. If we were reselling CN oils, we’d make way less money, SIGNIFICANTLY less. If that’s what we were doing, we’d have full stock on everything because reselling is easy. But we don’t. Haven't even had Test E for months. There's also no way we could ship as fast as we do.

The only reason Primo was ever resold is because everyone was screaming for it at the time. I just didn’t know those oils were brewed with shit. Thanks for that @Photon. Lesson learned. Literally only did that because I thought we were doing everyone a favor.

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send your lab pics and stock pics of raws/oils with paper stating primal pharma 14.01.2026

you fucking monkey

 

[Primal_Pharma]

you fucking monkey

I'm an Ape

 

[dinfaralt]

I'm an Ape

everybody got their answer then?

lol cant even do something so simple 870 pages sold hella cn gear and made good profit.

i applaud you my fellow ape

 

[glpfun]

 

[Dial It In]

Brother you're smart, so let's think about this lol. If we were reselling CN oils, we’d make way less money, SIGNIFICANTLY less. If that’s what we were doing, we’d have full stock on everything because reselling is easy. But we don’t. Haven't even had Test E for months, Mast, DHB, we didn't even have EQ for a while. There's also no way we could ship as fast as we do.

The only reason Primo was ever resold is because everyone was screaming for it at the time. I just didn’t know those oils were brewed with shit. Thanks for that @Photon. Lesson learned. Literally only did that because I thought we were doing everyone a favor.

Also why the hell would I buy a jug of MCT, send it in for GCMS, and then turn around and resell CN oils? I already take long enough sending in our own stuff. That makes zero sense. Half of you act like detectives and the other half clearly want to see us fail. Anyone who thinks something like that wouldn’t get exposed is just kidding themselves.

I’m not smart but thank you. Look, this isn’t personal. I have zero connections to a source. I’m here for the community and that’s it. If someone has bad intentions I am unaware and fuck them if they do because that’s just as bad as hiding things. But test are test and need to be proven otherwise based on your claim it’s impossible. But the lack of raw testing, the accusations members have an agenda, the primo debacle, the premium violet top nonsense the cards are stacked. @Photon bust every sources balls. @dinfaralt is a knowledgeable brewer and Sampei gave up on this thread. It’s on you. We can only speak to what we see.