MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Targeted]

Just shut up. You're the clown on here advocating for untested, poorly dosed gear as long as you get it fast and cheap? Primal has shown he can test the raws and test the finished product before selling. When he does that, his gear is top notch. When he doesn't, the gear turns to unreliable crap.

Nope. You’re just another goofball saying I said that. Specifically I’m saying that in this market under certain circumstances I’d consider a brewer Sending out samples out for testing. But Brewing while waiting on test results. And only if testing came back good selling those bottles. Obviously looking at melt points and the suppliers other tests etc. But most importantly wait for hplc to come back on raws before selling.

 

[Dial It In]

So I’m not defending any of Primals lies, nor any claims of contamination. I’m aware of Photon’s post and I believe it’s all VERY valid concern. In fact I’ve paused sourcing from him for the time being.

I just want to say that the one time I defended Primal in here and praised his communication I was jumped on by everyone. I went back and forth a bit. I’m not defending any of my actions either here. What I want to say is Primal literally DMed me telling me to not engage and that it won’t help anything. I have receipts of that just not sure on etiquette for sharing DMs. So I kinda doubt he’s creating fake accounts to defend himself? Idk just thought I’d throw that out there.

A source isn’t supposed to initiate DMs. It’s a rule when they are approved to be on Meso and is something on which they can be banned. The ability for them to initiate DMs has since been removed. The reason being is exactly your example you just provided. Some people get passionate and worked up and if I did that to you I apologize. No ones opinion should be suppressed and we should operate in black and white for conclusions not opinions. Typically we don’t share DMs unless it’s something that is a community health hazard or risk. So if you see a source asking you to DM you now you know why.

 

[nudemember]

This Sir was in piss poor taste. But since you opened the can let’s keep going. This vendor did indeed own it and made it right. They also committed to no more delivery until results are back. There are also two other active domestic sources that do the same thing who also offer testing reimbursement. So you drop this Jano but you did the exact same thing on Cyp50 and other products so not sure your point. Members sending you test results of bad test from other vendors? Tell them to post them in that vendor thread and get reimbursed. Why haven’t they done so because it’s dumb to not do that. Test, don’t test it’s whatever at this point but this here was a classless act like a child acting out. It’s a common courtesy on this forum to not mention other sources in a source thread (unless someone is in an exit scam thread asking for guidance). Although you didn’t mention them by name it’s irrelevant. Perhaps other vendors should start posting your Janos in their thread. Or members for that matter since it’s cool with you. Whatever sources with shit results you are talking about aren’t the most active DOMESTIC ones or we would see it. This was in such poor taste and low. I guess this is what Meso is becoming. But this behavior is very familiar to another source that used to operate on this board a while back. Anyway this isn’t about your process just this post.

he didn't directly name them but the QR code is literally right there to lead you to the official results that show who it is, so i'd say he did in fact name them. He also dodge why the viles of ment that were posted were two different styles, with the new hardware. Dude lashed out then turns around trying to save face every time.

 

[trynagains]

A source isn’t supposed to initiate DMs. It’s a rule when they are approved to be on Meso and is something on which they can be banned. The ability for them to initiate DMs has since been removed. The reason being is exactly your example you just provided. Some people get passionate and worked up and if I did that to you I apologize. No ones opinion should be suppressed and we should operate in black and white for conclusions not opinions. Typically we don’t share DMs unless it’s something that is a community health hazard or risk. So if you see a source asking you to DM you now you know why.

Nah dude I think you’re great. I’ve learned a lot here very quickly and I appreciate the community much more. Ahh that makes a lot of sense. Glad that’s been buttoned up a bit.

 

[crispybacon!]

So I’m not defending any of Primals lies, nor any claims of contamination. I’m aware of Photon’s post and I believe it’s all VERY valid concern. In fact I’ve paused sourcing from him for the time being.

I just want to say that the one time I defended Primal in here and praised his communication I was jumped on by everyone. I went back and forth a bit. I’m not defending any of my actions either here. What I want to say is Primal literally DMed me telling me to not engage and that it won’t help anything. I have receipts of that just not sure on etiquette for sharing DMs. So I kinda doubt he’s creating fake accounts to defend himself? Idk just thought I’d throw that out there.

Yeah, folks can get a little wound up around here (I’m occasionally guilty myself). I think what sets people off is when someone new comes in and makes a very superficial assessment because Primal is “nice”, has fast shipping, or gives me freebies, overlooking the very real issues taking place. Often times they haven’t done any due diligence to fully appreciate the more important problems with this vendor. And the influx of new people has been pretty significant lately, making the problem worse, and more frustrating.

I personally didn’t read you as some sort of Primal alt or shill, just a new member that didn’t really have all the history. And if I made you feel unwelcome, I apologize.

As for this other guy, it just doesn’t make sense. He’s barely active, but has gone out of his way to respond directly to me in defense of Primal, and even taken the time to review my post history and take screenshots. Doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.

 

[Grimnir]

So I’m not defending any of Primals lies, nor any claims of contamination. I’m aware of Photon’s post and I believe it’s all VERY valid concern. In fact I’ve paused sourcing from him for the time being.

I just want to say that the one time I defended Primal in here and praised his communication I was jumped on by everyone. I went back and forth a bit. I’m not defending any of my actions either here. What I want to say is Primal literally DMed me telling me to not engage and that it won’t help anything. I have receipts of that just not sure on etiquette for sharing DMs. So I kinda doubt he’s creating fake accounts to defend himself? Idk just thought I’d throw that out there.

Dudes literally had multiple different lab names and currently has two on different forums that are pretty obvious. He's a chronic liar. There's no doubt he has multiple accounts. It's just a matter of how many.

 

[trynagains]

Yeah, folks can get a little wound up around here (I’m occasionally guilty myself). I think what sets people off is when someone new comes in and makes a very superficial assessment because Primal is “nice”, has fast shipping, or gives me freebies, overlooking the very real issues taking place. Often times they haven’t done any due diligence to fully appreciate the more important problems with this vendor. And the influx of new people has been pretty significant lately, making the problem worse, and more frustrating.

I personally didn’t read you as some sort of Primal alt or shill, just a new member that didn’t really have all the history. And if I made you feel unwelcome, I apologize.

As for this other guy, it just doesn’t make sense. He’s barely active, but has gone out of his way to respond directly to me in defense of Primal, and even taken the time to review my post history and take screenshots. Doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.

Again nah, I think you’re great too. I have tough enough skin to know y’all were trying to push me in the right direction. I don’t always handle that great. Ha. This place is not immediately easy to navigate without it feeling like you’re drinking the coolaid. But I’ve seen that certain members here really do have the best intentions as well as the right direction. I’m learning. Forgive my missteps.

Oh shit I missed that bit. Didn’t see him digging that deep. Does seem a bit sus. I’ll just sit back and have my popcorn and watch it all unfold.

 

[Magenzus]

At this point buying from Primal is more expensive since I feel I need to test every single vial because sadly you cant trust what he says. Testing adds up. He still hasnt explained why vials of the same batch have different colors!

 

[desertwarrior]

Dudes literally had multiple different lab names and currently has two on different forums that are pretty obvious. He's a chronic liar. There's no doubt he has multiple accounts. It's just a matter of how many.

It’s insane more people don’t see this. It’s blatantly obvious at this point. 99% of my thinking during a day is on bbl’s and thick latinas and even I pumped to the gills on tren can see right through this guy.

My brother @American Muscle put in a FOIA act request with the postal inspectors service about the raid conducted with Kirkland police department on the lab associated with colonial. The suspects listed were never charged. Clear cooperation. This investigation kicked off with a pack of raws from buck that busted open in route to colonial. I can confirm that the names involved with this case match the name on the trellis reports I previously linked. I have dm’s from muscle candy admitting he and axle were involved in colonial, they split away after the bust and started juice ape, axle attempted to seize sole control of the operation, they spit forming muscle candy and axle labs. All this from muscle candies own mouth. Muscle candy never took off properly and bros house payments weren’t getting covered so he attempted to rebrand again as Olympian, shared lab photos that directly link Olympian to muscle candy, vials, labels, flip caps identical. With that venture never taking off he started healthy hippo and finally @Primal_Pharma

 

[BigDadd7]

Nope. You’re just another goofball saying I said that. Specifically I’m saying that in this market under certain circumstances I’d consider a brewer Sending out samples out for testing. But Brewing while waiting on test results. And only if testing came back good selling those bottles. Obviously looking at melt points and the suppliers other tests etc. But most importantly wait for hplc to come back on raws before selling.

Gotcha. Found the shill.

 

[The Answ3r]

Feels like we’re going in circles at this point. Same discussion, different day.

So what’s the actual goal here? What outcome is the community really looking for right now?

Do people want Primal shut down entirely?
Go private?
Disappear and come back “reborn”?
Publicly admit every mistake and self-flagellate?
Rebrand again and start from zero?
Or just vanish so we can crown the next “next big thing” and repeat the cycle?

Genuinely asking. What exactly needs to happen for everyone to take a breath and say, “Alright, we’re good now.”

Because from the outside, it looks like there is no finish line. Just the same loop, on repeat.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Feels like we’re going in circles at this point. Same discussion, different day.

So what’s the actual goal here? What outcome is the community really looking for right now?

Do people want Primal shut down entirely?
Go private?
Disappear and come back “reborn”?
Publicly admit every mistake and self-flagellate?
Rebrand again and start from zero?
Or just vanish so we can crown the next “next big thing” and repeat the cycle?

Genuinely asking. What exactly needs to happen for everyone to take a breath and say, “Alright, we’re good now.”

Because from the outside, it looks like there is no finish line. Just the same loop, on repeat.

Personally. I think it’s probably better just be done with this source. Too much lack of follow through. There’s other sources with much more follow through, and just as good customer service that everyone is so quick to comment on. I don’t mind if dude started putting out his raw tests and batch tests before putting stuff out. That’s the standard, not quick deliveries, not good customer service, but raw tests and batch tests every time.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Send anything in, brother. I will cover whatever up front costs too if you are worried and replace whatever you send.

You cover testing up front and replace? If so, I’d like to take you up on that offer. I’m just asking cause I’ve seen before that you said you reimburse.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

I now hold the record for the highest over dose on Meso at 323.35% over target

I’ll take some of that overdose

 

[Magenzus]

T

You cover testing up front and replace? If so, I’d like to take you up on that offer. I’m just asking cause I’ve seen before that you said you reimburse.

That’s what I was asking him since I sent two vials for testing, but he never replied. Maybe I should email? @Primal_Pharma

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Personally. I think it’s probably better just be done with this source. Too much lack of follow through. There’s other sources with much more follow through, and just as good customer service that everyone is so quick to comment on. I don’t mind if dude started putting out his raw tests and batch tests before putting stuff out. That’s the standard, not quick deliveries, not good customer service, but raw tests and batch tests every time.

Take care brotha!

You cover testing up front and replace? If so, I’d like to take you up on that offer. I’m just asking cause I’ve seen before that you said you reimburse.

We always reimburse but in this case we will cover up front and replace. Please email - support@primalpharma.io

That’s what I was asking him since I sent two vials for testing, but he never replied. Maybe I should email? @Primal_Pharma

Yes, please email - support@primalpharma.io

 

[Andrewthatguy]

T

That’s what I was asking him since I sent two vials for testing, but he never replied. Maybe I should email? @Primal_Pharma

Yeah i got some tren ace of primal I’d like to test. Gave him a shot based on the reviews of others . Started last Monday, no Tren cough, no night sweats, basically zero sides. Makes me a little suspicious but I’m an objective guy hence why I gave him a shot. Obviously sides aren’t the end all be all and a test is way more telling.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Take care brotha!

We always reimburse but in this case we will cover up front and replace. Please email - support@primalpharma.io

Yes, please email - support@primalpharma.io

Alright cool I got some of your teen ace 200. A lot of people ask about your Tren so I think it would be beneficial for both of us

 

[Dial It In]

Yeah i got some tren ace of primal I’d like to test. Gave him a shot based on the reviews of others . Started last Monday, no Tren cough, no night sweats, basically zero sides. Makes me a little suspicious but I’m an objective guy hence why I gave him a shot. Obviously sides aren’t the end all be all and a test is way more telling.

Brother I’m not sure what your dose is but that’s not time to be getting any sides. Even though it’s ACE you haven’t even had any saturation yet.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Brother I’m not sure what your dose is but that’s not time to be getting any sides. Even though it’s ACE you haven’t even had any saturation yet.

I don’t even wanna say my dose cause everyone is gonna hop on me, but it’s a moderate amount. Last time I ran Tren I immediately got the chest acne side effect. There’s many different factors and differences this time though. Like I’d been on test for at least 4 weeks. Glad to get a response cause though that makes sense. Just heard of others getting night sweats their first week, but responses can be very individual.