MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

Feels like we’re going in circles at this point. Same discussion, different day.

So what’s the actual goal here? What outcome is the community really looking for right now?

Do people want Primal shut down entirely?
Go private?
Disappear and come back “reborn”?
Publicly admit every mistake and self-flagellate?
Rebrand again and start from zero?
Or just vanish so we can crown the next “next big thing” and repeat the cycle?

Genuinely asking. What exactly needs to happen for everyone to take a breath and say, “Alright, we’re good now.”

Because from the outside, it looks like there is no finish line. Just the same loop, on repeat.
There is no start or finish line.. thats what people dont seem to understand.
The goal? Quality ingredients, tested raws, brewed oil, finished oil testing (gcms + qq), Real batch numbers tied to testing, 2-3 3rd party testing results, and some time of adhearence and testing to show the system/protocol is well incorporated.

Right now it feels the same shit, different day BECAUSE theres nothing to do but wait and see how more testing comes back. Emotional and impatient members, shills and crusadors cant seem to find something useful to focus on aside from making a ton of claims based on their feel reports instead of waiting for actual data.

If you were in any other thread, youd be getting flayed alive for even touching gear with that mentality. I remember when I joined here, almost ALL of the complaints and accusations people were saying wouldnt even get consideration if they were not backed up with facts. Even testing that didnt come from a sealed vendor vial werent even awknoledged.. Whole dropping 1ml of samples into tiny vial was considered pointless. More so only used for getting the average concentration between multiple vials you purchase (ex. 10 vials, 1ml/vial into sample vial, 10ml sample sent out).

I personally would prefer to see things corrected and systemized over "shutting down". Check my last wall-of-text-post if you want to know my thoughts as to why. Shutting down isnt a solution, its just what is easiest for all. Accountability is difficult, and having a source willing to work towards that instead of fleeing and rebranding holds a ton of value that I dont think most recognize.

Anyways, my real point is that we are waiting on about 3-4 members who have sent out vials to get the results back. I havent seen any new product updates so not sure if Primal has brewed anything new since, but that would be the next step. Have them run through their updated process with testing and listing for sale. Then need at least 1-2 3rd party testing results to come back so we can compare and contrast.

Any concerned members with large enough stock of products that are past the "toss it/fuck it" dollar amount should be in contact with Primal for testing reimbursment.

IF YOU ARE DOING THIS then please consult with experienced testers in the community to determine the best way to get your results across your whole stash for efficiency sake and peace of mind.

Anything else being talked about in here is just straight noise and distraction to the harm reduction goals we should all be aligning over. IMO
 
I think primal is a perfect example of a vendor that got too big too fast. They started off with good intentions, but they’ve put quantity above quality on their priority list.

Customer service and shipping is top notch and they will always make things right if there is a problem. However, there have been way too many problems lately and there seems to be a general lack of transparency as to why they are occurring. This is a fine business model for broccoli heads and uneducated stereotypical meat heads, but meso is a harm reduction forum. A place where people have high expectations for the products they’re purchasing and where vendors are held to incredibly high standards.

This isn’t the early 2000’s anymore. Pharma grade products can be made in underground labs with very few inconsistencies in product quality and testing. We have several vendors here that have proven that.

All the community is asking you to do is make a consistent, high quality product. If that means taking more time to get things in stock than so be it. If you, or the customer are not willing to wait for this, then neither of you should be on this forum.
Lmao. Get the fuck out of here with this shit. UGL will never be on par with Pharma. Copium at its finest.
 
They’re literally another well known vendor that got ran off of here already so they rebranded, wtf are you talking about?
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. I don’t think we can say with 100% certainty they are the same. It’s also possible they are just distributors using the same brewers to make their product.
 

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