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I don’t hope that you have nothing to lose. I hope you view your life as valuable. As we certainly do. Guys may rip on people here but it’s usually because they are doing something dangerous and stupid or lying for no reason. We are putting chemicals in our bodies that modify our entire endocrine system. That alone is stupid and dangerous enough. So the simple things we can do like proper sanitization, technique, filtering, testing, titrating etc. are easy and a MUST. If we can’t get that right what else do you think we might be wrecking?
Incredibly kind words. I was sterile as possible without being in a clean room. I never draw and inject with the same needle. Always use rubbing alcohol on pretty much everything including washing my hands with it and the surface of the counter that the syringe sits on. Post injection a 30 second massage of the area with a microfiber towel that has rubbing alcohol on it.

I’m going to be honest. I’m running a low grade temp right now and starting to get concerned. Looks like this one is going to be a negotiation with debt collectors once it’s all said and done.
 
Axles was just PIP.

This is a confirmed infection from the ER. You guys would be surprised how much fluid you can extract with an 18 gauge and some pressure. Antibiotics prescribed to kill the rest off.

Certainly not recommended but when you have poverty insurance like me you like to try and save money lol
I’m not anti-Primal and I’m not defending them either, but are we just supposed to take every claim at face value now? An ER visit and antibiotics is serious, no doubt, but accusations like this need more than “trust me bro.”

We’ve already seen this movie before. The Stanford chemist with medals who somehow couldn’t pin properly.

If this is a confirmed infection tied to a specific product, then show something concrete. Batch info, timelines, cultures, anything. Otherwise it’s just another anecdote in a long thread of anecdotes.

Not saying you’re lying. Just saying serious claims deserve serious receipts. Until then, I can’t really treat this as anything more than noise.
 
I’m not anti-Primal and I’m not defending them either, but are we just supposed to take every claim at face value now? An ER visit and antibiotics is serious, no doubt, but accusations like this need more than “trust me bro.”

We’ve already seen this movie before. The Stanford chemist with medals who somehow couldn’t pin properly.

If this is a confirmed infection tied to a specific product, then show something concrete. Batch info, timelines, cultures, anything. Otherwise it’s just another anecdote in a long thread of anecdotes.

Not saying you’re lying. Just saying serious claims deserve serious receipts. Until then, I can’t really treat this as anything more than noise.
What do you want? My discharge paperwork that says infection from primal? Happy to share after I redact it. The one thing you are going to have to take at face value is this is the first pin with primal gear at this site and there is no way I can provide evidence of that.

I just took another dose of amoxicillin (yes we know Amox does next to nothing but I’m throwing what I have at this) and the prescribed clindamycin. So 1000 amoxicillin down and 600 clin in the system.
 
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I’m not anti-Primal and I’m not defending them either, but are we just supposed to take every claim at face value now? An ER visit and antibiotics is serious, no doubt, but accusations like this need more than “trust me bro.”

We’ve already seen this movie before. The Stanford chemist with medals who somehow couldn’t pin properly.

If this is a confirmed infection tied to a specific product, then show something concrete. Batch info, timelines, cultures, anything. Otherwise it’s just another anecdote in a long thread of anecdotes.

Not saying you’re lying. Just saying serious claims deserve serious receipts. Until then, I can’t really treat this as anything more than noise.
and for the record I’m not dissing primal. Shit happens and I thought the standford chemist shit was proven to be edited?
 
What do you want? My discharge paperwork that says infection from primal? Happy to share after I redact it. The one thing you are going to have to take at face value is this is the first pin with primal gear at this site and there is no way I can provide evidence of that.

I just took another dose of amoxicillin (yes we know Amox does next to nothing but I’m throwing what I have at this) and the prescribed clindamycin. So 1000 amoxicillin down and 600 clin in the system.
the point is that it’s pretty much useless to us posting here that you got an infection from primal gear. We can’t just accept “trust me bro” accusations. There are a lot of these going on constantly and what is being said is that we really need evidence to go along with claims. This is a common theme:

Claims that:
1. something is underdosed or bunk because of feels
2. Gear caused an infection
3. Gear was contaminated
Etc..

Need evidence to back up the claim. Otherwise what are we doing here? Gossiping like little girls?
Is it sus you got an infection? Yeah I’d be worried about using the batch again if it were me. But what can we know unless you actually have a lab culture your gear to see if it harbors some nasty bacteria? How do we know you just don’t exfoliate well and your dry skin is harboring bacteria that alcohol can’t get to?
 
What do you want? My discharge paperwork that says infection from primal? Happy to share after I redact it. The one thing you are going to have to take at face value is this is the first pin with primal gear at this site and there is no way I can provide evidence of that.

I just took another dose of amoxicillin (yes we know Amox does next to nothing but I’m throwing what I have at this) and the prescribed clindamycin. So 1000 amoxicillin down and 600 clin in the system.

Send a similar sealed vial for sterility testing
 
Send a similar sealed vial for sterility testing
The joke was the "primal" part. This could obviously easily be user error. Regardless, I am curious. Does anyone know Jano's turnaround time? I'd like to send the vial I used (which will causes some issues for some here, but I personally would want to know) and a fresh vial from the same batch.

And to clear the air, I'm not making an infection story up. I have 0 to gain from except medical debt, pain, and spent money on testing (assuming I get a refund) lol. Anyways as for an update - temperature has stayed the same (slightly elevated) a little nausea, and a whole lot of pain near the injection site (which we contribute to 18 gauge harpoon usage). Also very hot and sensitive to touch.

Edit- Nvm. Sterility testing required an unopened vial at $240 a test and $170 a test for GMCS. Average turn around time for Sterility testing is 14 days.
 
The joke was the "primal" part. This could obviously easily be user error. Regardless, I am curious. Does anyone know Jano's turnaround time? I'd like to send the vial I used (which will causes some issues for some here, but I personally would want to know) and a fresh vial from the same batch.

And to clear the air, I'm not making an infection story up. I have 0 to gain from except medical debt, pain, and spent money on testing (assuming I get a refund) lol. Anyways as for an update - temperature has stayed the same (slightly elevated) a little nausea, and a whole lot of pain near the injection site (which we contribute to 18 gauge harpoon usage). Also very hot and sensitive to touch.

Shipping 1 week
Sterility 2 weeks, they need to see if shit grows and that takes time
 
Shipping 1 week
Sterility 2 weeks, they need to see if shit grows and that takes time
Yes, I edited my original post to reflect the timelines.

I'll see if Jano would still be willing to test an opened vial.

"AMC/TYMC: TAMC and TYMC tests check the presence of bacteria and molds in the product. Testing requires unopened additional pieces of sample to be sent for analysis. Average turnaround of this test is 14 days."
 
Yes, I edited my original post to reflect the timelines.

I'll see if Jano would still be willing to test an opened vial.

"AMC/TYMC: TAMC and TYMC tests check the presence of bacteria and molds in the product. Testing requires unopened additional pieces of sample to be sent for analysis. Average turnaround of this test is 14 days."

A used vial is no longer considered sterile. Running a sterility test is pointless at that point.
 
Yes, I edited my original post to reflect the timelines.

I'll see if Jano would still be willing to test an opened vial.

"AMC/TYMC: TAMC and TYMC tests check the presence of bacteria and molds in the product. Testing requires unopened additional pieces of sample to be sent for analysis. Average turnaround of this test is 14 days."
Send a sealed one from the same batch # and same order you got the one you used in. Would be a very good thing to see if the batch you used grows bacteria.
And it will be sealed, which is good.

Also, it says unopened 'additional' samples to verify. Email and ask if you can send a used one you suspect along with a sealed one.
Maybe I misunderstood this but thats what I think when I read it.


Best wishes
 
The joke was the "primal" part. This could obviously easily be user error. Regardless, I am curious. Does anyone know Jano's turnaround time? I'd like to send the vial I used (which will causes some issues for some here, but I personally would want to know) and a fresh vial from the same batch.

And to clear the air, I'm not making an infection story up. I have 0 to gain from except medical debt, pain, and spent money on testing (assuming I get a refund) lol. Anyways as for an update - temperature has stayed the same (slightly elevated) a little nausea, and a whole lot of pain near the injection site (which we contribute to 18 gauge harpoon usage). Also very hot and sensitive to touch.

Edit- Nvm. Sterility testing required an unopened vial at $240 a test and $170 a test for GMCS. Average turn around time for Sterility testing is 14 days.
I sent two samples to Jano and Primal refunded the costs of testing blind screening plus GCMS via store credit.
 
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